I always thought conventional wisdom was if a potential recruit rejects your phone call, you have no chance to pull him down, so move on.  However in this most recent recruiting session, a conference-mate with a B+ prestige was able to pull down the same recruit that rejected my phone call with an A prestige.  He was 80 miles from my campus, 20 miles from his campus.  So is that the difference?  Under 40 miles is worth more than 2/3 letter grade prestige?  Thanks.

Some recruits that otherwise wouldn't consider you, may tell you you are a back-up if they are within 70 minus of campus. Looks like you just missed on this one.

Yep, the 70 mile radius did you in.

What is a good method on pull downs? I haven't seen much on this topic. What should your prestige be when considering it, are there any major factors that go in to pulling down?

Posted by onestyles on 4/6/2012 5:50:00 PM (view original):
What is a good method on pull downs? I haven't seen much on this topic. What should your prestige be when considering it, are there any major factors that go in to pulling down?

onestyles, check out this document compiled by a buddy of mine.

Posted by hawkfan1991 on 4/6/2012 2:52:00 PM (view original):
I always thought conventional wisdom was if a potential recruit rejects your phone call, you have no chance to pull him down, so move on.  However in this most recent recruiting session, a conference-mate with a B+ prestige was able to pull down the same recruit that rejected my phone call with an A prestige.  He was 80 miles from my campus, 20 miles from his campus.  So is that the difference?  Under 40 miles is worth more than 2/3 letter grade prestige?  Thanks.

A couple things here - you say the conference mate inside 70 pulled him down? In that case the 70 miles didn't matter - the 70 mile thing is that sometimes recruits that are listed as a higher division that ordinarily would have to be pull down or drop downs will be open to conventional recruiting efforts inside that 70 mile radius. If he was still a pull down that didn't happen here. You are correct that if a recruit rejects your phone call you cannot recruit him, and should move on.  Your error is assuming that just because you got the flat rejection that your conference mate would as well. Prestige is not the only factor involved. Sometimes kids just don't like one school and will be ok with another. I am not sure what programming language is used to determine that, or if there is just a certain degree of randomness in the process, but schools with lower prestige can sometimes pull down a kid who rejected you, regardless of the distances involved (or, perhaps I should say, without any obvious distance factor. Distance may play some part in the whole randomness formula that determines if the kid will take your call or not...)