How would you use this guy on offense? Topic

At D2

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He will be playing most of his minutes at the backup SG with some minutes at SF. I want to give him a fair amount of distro because of his Ath, LP, and Per but his BH and Passing are low for a SG. Should I keep his distro low or give him a decent amount and see how he does? I've never had a player like him before and I dont really have any good scoring options off the bench with 2 freshman and 3 sophomores as the primary backups.
5/28/2012 2:39 AM
After a quick 5 second glance at your roster, I think this player should be starting in the 2 position, set with a fairly high distro, and set to zero.  Due to his ATH, he would be a great 2 guard start with Carr coming off the bench and being your shooter.  This doesnt really take into consideration IQ or anything.

Just my opinion.

Any vets to weigh in?
5/28/2012 3:04 AM
i would defintely start him and move Carr to the SF/3 spot.  If you are pressing, this guy (with Carr) will give you awesome speed and he will lead the league in steals.  As far as offense, I would make him a spot of shooter until his LP or BH improve.  To do that, give him low distro in comparison to your starters but make his 3pt frequency 0 or +1 (so when he does get it, he shoots)

My 2 pennies.
5/28/2012 4:04 AM
Since Carr is going to get eaten up by good scorers, it's fairly important to rotate him away from such players in your man defense. So if this were my team, I'd use that as the primary test for where to play Oceguera or Carr. If it's close in that regard (opposing SG/SF are somewhat similar in scoring ability and proportion), I'd use Carr at SG and Oceguera at SF, since O's ATH, LP advantages and especially his PE, BH, PA disadvantages are much better suited there.

Edit: After looking more closely at the roster, Carr has to be at PG, with his SPD, and especially his BH/PA, which are far superior to anyone else on the team. Trent's the SG, and big O at SF, since O has the ATH and LP advantages, along with significant issues at BH/A to play SG, and fortunately, Trent is solid in both. IMO, his REB advantage is not nearly important enough to outweigh this. But I might switch them if you play an opponent with a dominant scorer at SG, one he goes to a lot, especially if the scorer is not way faster than 65. Then I'd put O on him and move Trent back to SF. Your scoring will suffer a bit, but not so much as to outweigh the advantage of trying to frustrate an important part of the opponent's offense.

At SF, I'd play big O at 0 or maybe even -1 against teams with low ATH/SPD SG and poor SB down low. With his ATH and passable BH (not good enough to create his own shot, but good enough to catch on the run and get to the rim, where his ATH can dominate even good defenders in D2), Carr can hit him for slashing buckets with his great PA. Good luck with him. He's a cool player.
5/28/2012 7:45 AM
Posted by jskenner on 5/28/2012 7:45:00 AM (view original):
Since Carr is going to get eaten up by good scorers, it's fairly important to rotate him away from such players in your man defense. So if this were my team, I'd use that as the primary test for where to play Oceguera or Carr. If it's close in that regard (opposing SG/SF are somewhat similar in scoring ability and proportion), I'd use Carr at SG and Oceguera at SF, since O's ATH, LP advantages and especially his PE, BH, PA disadvantages are much better suited there.

Edit: After looking more closely at the roster, Carr has to be at PG, with his SPD, and especially his BH/PA, which are far superior to anyone else on the team. Trent's the SG, and big O at SF, since O has the ATH and LP advantages, along with significant issues at BH/A to play SG, and fortunately, Trent is solid in both. IMO, his REB advantage is not nearly important enough to outweigh this. But I might switch them if you play an opponent with a dominant scorer at SG, one he goes to a lot, especially if the scorer is not way faster than 65. Then I'd put O on him and move Trent back to SF. Your scoring will suffer a bit, but not so much as to outweigh the advantage of trying to frustrate an important part of the opponent's offense.

At SF, I'd play big O at 0 or maybe even -1 against teams with low ATH/SPD SG and poor SB down low. With his ATH and passable BH (not good enough to create his own shot, but good enough to catch on the run and get to the rim, where his ATH can dominate even good defenders in D2), Carr can hit him for slashing buckets with his great PA. Good luck with him. He's a cool player.
Yea I don't have anyone else besides Carr that can play PG. I hadn't even though about using Trent at SG. MY depth chart was going to be Carr at PG, Harlow at SG (because he has about the same ath, speed, BH, and passing as Trent but with worse Reb/LP and much better Per), and Trent at SF.

That makes sense as far as how to use him. He still has high potential in per and pass and average for everything else except reb/SB. I kind of decided to take a flyer on him late in recruiting as a prospect because he already was 85 in ath/def and he had a lot of high/high potentials for his low starting ratings.
5/28/2012 11:09 AM
http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=2072462 is a similar player that I've had success with the last few seasons.  I put him at the 3 and give him 2nd/3rd most distro to a surprising (to me, anyway) amount of success. 
5/28/2012 11:33 AM
blackdog, I didn't even notice Harlow. His PE makes him better than Trent, so I'm thinking put O at SF, with Trent backup at both SG and SF.
5/28/2012 10:32 PM
Posted by jskenner on 5/28/2012 10:32:00 PM (view original):
blackdog, I didn't even notice Harlow. His PE makes him better than Trent, so I'm thinking put O at SF, with Trent backup at both SG and SF.
I think Im going to leave Trent at SF because of his rebounding (my starting PF only has 62 reb and my starting C only has 84) and switch Oceguera and Harlow at the starting 2 depending on the opposing defense.
5/29/2012 12:34 AM
I'd have him starting at SG with a healthy distro but set to -1 to start out the season.  See how he is shooting from the 3 pt mark after for the first 5-7 games and then either adjust him to 0 or -2 based on what he does.  You might find that -1 works best but that would be my approach.  His high ATH at that level will be dominant.
5/29/2012 12:53 AM
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