I was just wondering if anyone had any information on how exactly the Lefty and Righty specialists  usage works for pictures.

F or example if

I have lefty and righty specialists and a closer, will the specialists be used like set up guys and the closer will close?

If I have a set  up guy and the specialists will they be use in the 9th as closers?

They don't work. 

They don't work well.

RH works well enough.   LH doesn't come in, pitch to one LH batter and is taken out. 

Fasteddy, I wouldn't bother using them.  The game is so highly 'righty' dominated if you have a guy with a high vR split you may as well just use him in a traditional role.  If you put a vL stud as a lefty specialist....they tend to come in at erratic times and may only get about 20 IP on the season, not enough IMO to suck up a roster spot.

The only time I would personally consider using one is in the playoffs if I have a pitcher who is not great but has a vL split of over 90 and I am playing a team in a short series that has one or more masher left handed bats.

It sucks that the logic is not there to use them better like as different set up guys... depending of if where two lefties or whatever due up!! Ah well... thanks for the advice any way.

It's always entirely possible that we're doing something wrong.  I'd say 95% of all problems are "user error" but I posted this in a suggestion thread:

IIRC, I had him set as 4th inning available.     So, overall, he was used to face RHB more frequently.    But 6.1% more than the rest of the staff over 3 seasons doesn't seem "specialist-y" to me.

do you think that if i sent a ticket wis would explain the decision tree regarding these specialist a little more vs regular BP a little more ..

and does the logic work the same in minors and majors, because they main reasons I am asking are still in A ball so i could moniter the roles a little better and get a more longidutional l study there right..

I think WifS thinks that it works fine so, to answer your question, no.

The logic works the same so you could certainly test it in A ball.

I personally believe there are enough users in this game that like to experiment at different times and if there was a semi-useful, easily implemented way of using a Loogy, it would appear in the forums.  I've seen a person or two hint at it, but nothing substaintail enough to think "ok there's an easy solution".  Perhaps there's a way to setup your bullpen to get a LOOGY to work how Tony LaRussa used them thru his career, but frankly it should be very tough to set up.

I have no idea how the bullpen logic is written, but IMHO it should be something along these lines:

Starter goes until his target pitch count and/or pull settings are reached.

A Starter may be pulled prior to reaching his target pitch count and/or pull settings are reached if you have reached a point in the game where your setup men, closers or specialist are available to enter the game based upon the inning you set them at.  The starter is only pulled in this situation during a "close" game (perhaps something we can dicated, but something like a 1-3 run lead) where your setup A eligible players or specialists are a better option.

Specialist should default to only the current hitter, where as setup men should default to the current batter, the guy on deck and the guy in the whole.  ie, If I have a Loggy and a tough lefty hitter, he comes in to the game to face that batter.  If the next batter is a righty or if the lefty is pinch hit for by a righty, the LOOGY is pulled.  However, if I have no left handed specialist, but a left handed setup man, it would allow the left handed setup man to continue facing the right handed batter until his pitch count or pull setting is implemented.

A crude layout, but it should be all that difficult to write and implement into the logic.  Heck, I'd vote to give us more control of our bullpen limitations.  ie, go to a setup/B guy if you're up 3 in the 7th and need to bring in a bullpen guy rather than defaulting to a rested setup A guy.  Or perhaps we change to that to 4 runs or 2 runs if it fits our needs better.

We'd run out of 100% pitchers real fast if we had two guys pitching to 1 batter.    The "problem" with a sim is that they can't program everything. 

As an example, my staff is tired.  I have 3 100% RP.   My starter goes 5 and hits his 90 PC.  In the real world, I have a couple of options and they depend on the situation.  
1) Leave him in.   If it's a close game and I have a fear of extra innings, I need him to go 6 or 7.   
2) Take him out and extend my LR to get me to the 8th.   If it's a beatdown, I may just let him finish the game. 

1a) I've left him in, he shut them down and it's the 7th.   I need my LR to go in the 7th and maybe the 8th.   Or, if I have a 1-2 run lead, my LR goes the 7th, SU pitches 8th and CL(which I don't use anymore) goes the 9th.
1b) I've left him in and he gets smoked in the 6th.  Game is now a beatdown.  LR finishes game.

2a) SP is out, LR is in.  He needs to pitch 6th/7th.   Unless it's a beating and he's extended to finish the game.
2b) SP is out, LR is in.   LR is injured in the 6th.   Now SU and CL have to eat 3+ innings.
2c) SP is out, LR is in.  We stage a comeback.  I now want SU pitching 7th/8th.   CL pitching 9th.

You can't simulate these things.

Without specific examples from a boxscore we can't make an assumption that this is a "broken" feature of the game.

Please realize that if a batter does not perform well against  the handedness of the pitcher then it is possible that your specialist will remain in the game to face him.

For example: LHS is brought in to face a lefty masher and the batter on deck has a below average VsL rating. Pending any settings you may have for the specific pitcher there is a good chance he will stay in to face the next batter.

In other words this isn't an exclusive role where he will always face just 1 batter. The possibility that he faces more than 1 batter is built into the game.

Hope that helps.

Live play.

Real players.

Of course, neither of those are part of the discussion at hand.

True knuckleballers.