Posted by rednu on 8/15/2012 11:17:00 AM (view original):
The law of diminishing returns kicks in after 25 minutes for team offense/defense sets and 20 minutes for individual skills (footwoork, rebounding, conditioning, etc.).

That doesn't necessarily mean not to give players more than that amount of minutes (if you've got a kid with high potential in one category who's close to maxed in many others, for instance, it might be worth your while to allocate more than 20 on the high potential skill). It just means those additional minutes don't carry as much weight as the initial ones do. So to answer your quetsion, no I don't think 30 is twice as fast as 15, but I'm not sure what the "rate of decay" is for additional minutes when you get above the 20.

Posted by bdpoor on 8/15/2012 12:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by rednu on 8/15/2012 11:17:00 AM (view original):
The law of diminishing returns kicks in after 25 minutes for team offense/defense sets and 20 minutes for individual skills (footwoork, rebounding, conditioning, etc.).

That doesn't necessarily mean not to give players more than that amount of minutes (if you've got a kid with high potential in one category who's close to maxed in many others, for instance, it might be worth your while to allocate more than 20 on the high potential skill). It just means those additional minutes don't carry as much weight as the initial ones do. So to answer your quetsion, no I don't think 30 is twice as fast as 15, but I'm not sure what the "rate of decay" is for additional minutes when you get above the 20.

I had always heard the opposite, in that 25 mins for individual stats and 20 mins for team stats. Could someone please verify? Not that I don't trust you rednu, you've always been a solid source :-b

No worries bdpoor and definitely no offense taken. Here's the quote from the "Understanding Player Ratings" section of the Players Guide:

"One of the crucial areas in understanding player ratings is understanding how to improve them. Solid practice plans can make an enormous difference in a player over the course of 4 years, so here are some helpful tidbits for setting yours. First, abide by the rule of diminishing returns. Spend no more than 20 minutes on an individual skill, or no more than 25 minutes on an offense or defense (apiece, not combined) and you will begin to encounter diminishing returns. There are very few reasons for a coach to break these rules, none of which you are likely to encounter until DI. If a player has maxed out his potential in multiple areas, it may be the right decision to go above 20 in some categories, but these exceptions are very rare."

One of the crucial areas in understanding player ratings is understanding how to improve them. Solid practice plans can make an enormous difference in a player over the course of 4 years, so here are some helpful tidbits for setting yours. First, abide by the rule of diminishing returns. Spend no more than 20 minutes on an individual skill, or no more than 25 minutes on an offense or defense (apiece, not combined) and you will begin to encounter diminishing returns. There are very few reasons for a coach to break these rules, none of which you are likely to encounter until DI. If a player has maxed out his potential in multiple areas, it may be the right decision to go above 20 in some categories, but these exceptions are very rare