Keeping Pitching Prospects Healthy Topic

tytabs
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I'm almost 15 seasons in, and have a ridiculous time keeping pitching prospects healthy.  Just about every pitcher I've taken in the first round or signed internationally has blown out.  In the minors I always have them pitch at 100% durability.  I shut them down for their last 3-4 starts of the season.  I set pitch limits at what HBD recommends.  What am I doing wrong, is it just bad luck?

Are there other things out there that people do to keep their pitching prospects healthy?  Go to 6 man rotations in the minors?  Tandem pitching staffs?  Only throw 50 pitches a start?

Thanks.
8/29/2012 3:47 PM
tecwrg
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Medical and training.  Max them out to $20m.
8/29/2012 4:09 PM
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Youve budgeted well in training and medical.  Maybe bad luck, or the pitchers themselves had very low health ratings.
8/29/2012 4:35 PM
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I significantly lower the pitch counts. If a guy has 65 stamina, hes only going to do 60-65 for me. If he has 80, hes doing 75-80.

I do similar things with my real big bats. I play them at DH in the minors.
8/29/2012 11:13 PM
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I don't have this problem, and I use simmy's recs for my minor league pitching prospects.  My guess is you've been hit by some bad luck.
8/30/2012 12:31 AM
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It's all relevant.   When you lose a tryout camp pitcher to a 220 day injury, it doesn't register.   When you lose a former 3rd overall pick to a 48 day injury, you feel like you just had a dozen of those last season(which you did but it was to non-prospects).   Overall, injuries are far more infrequent in HBD than real life.   If you have your training and medical high while making sure pitchers aren't throwing fatigued, you're doing all you can.   It's just going to happen.  

From my former team, overall #1:   Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Jalal Darling   Two injuries with 99 health and 20m in training/medical.   Drove me insane. 
8/30/2012 9:01 AM
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I have a question. I just picked up a huge relief pitching prospect and put him in AAA. He last pitched 8-29 AM and has been at 0 (0) Health ever since. He just isn't recovering. Is this because he hit zero and is now taking time to recover? I've never seen this before.

https://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=5164304



8/30/2012 10:23 AM
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Posted by shobob on 8/30/2012 12:31:00 AM (view original):
I don't have this problem, and I use simmy's recs for my minor league pitching prospects.  My guess is you've been hit by some bad luck.
Same here.  I just use sim recs for minor leagues.  Never had a problem.  Maybe have to shuffle things if I see a glaring problem, but it's never been a real issue.
8/30/2012 10:23 AM
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Posted by mezirah on 8/30/2012 10:23:00 AM (view original):
I have a question. I just picked up a huge relief pitching prospect and put him in AAA. He last pitched 8-29 AM and has been at 0 (0) Health ever since. He just isn't recovering. Is this because he hit zero and is now taking time to recover? I've never seen this before.

https://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=5164304



He has 28 stamina and you're regularly pitching him 40+ pitches. He should be at 20-25 or thereabouts. He also pitched 46 pitches at 28%. And he only has 36 durability. It might take him a few cycles to catch back up and you should probably put him on rest or inactivate him until he does.
8/30/2012 10:29 AM
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^^^^^^
Yep.  Don't pitch him fatigued and a guy with that STM/DUR combo probably needs a lower PC.
8/30/2012 10:31 AM
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Posted by mezirah on 8/30/2012 10:23:00 AM (view original):
I have a question. I just picked up a huge relief pitching prospect and put him in AAA. He last pitched 8-29 AM and has been at 0 (0) Health ever since. He just isn't recovering. Is this because he hit zero and is now taking time to recover? I've never seen this before.

https://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=5164304



And he also should have been played at Low A, so that you don't run the risk of him stagnating if you want to let him develop in the minors for a few seasons and so he can get the best coaching possible (since it looks like you may have missed coach hiring, and your best pitching coach in the minors is in Low A).
8/31/2012 12:46 PM (edited)
mezirah
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I avoid pitching him at 28 stamina by setting my auto rest dont I? I think its at 80 or something. Not sure why he was played so brutally unless no one else was available or something. Maybe i'll add some B pitchers to the staff.

Why do you say I missed coach hiring? LOL. I thought I had good pitching coaches and my AA guy was the best place for him to develop. Isn't it just Pitching skill and Working with the Youth skill?
8/30/2012 7:42 PM
mezirah
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Edit: i mean i put him in AAA because the coach is good. I also thought with his current ratings he could hang at that level.

I do see my bullpen is exausted, I'll add some pitching tonight so these guys aren't overworked.

Thanks
8/30/2012 7:43 PM
zbrent716
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Must be a display issue. This is what I see:

Low A Coaches
Name Age Level Exp Role Salary
Mendy Zimmer 64 ML 13 Fielding Instructor $750K 37 19 88 37 13 74 65 58
George Terrell 39 LoA 7 Hitting Coach $90K 49 14 24 23 40 35 75 62
Kevin Jones 38 LoA 5 Pitching Coach $105K 3 49 4 9 53 41 99 70
Jesse Gardner 39 LoA 5 Bench Coach $105K 21 12 20 24 44 46 41 74


High A Coaches
Name Age Level Exp Role Salary
Mendy Zimmer 64 ML 13 Fielding Instructor $750K 37 19 88 37 13 74 65 58
Matt Thomas 36 HiA 6 Hitting Coach $90K 50 8 32 28 44 42 24 42
Brian Yoshii 30 HiA 7 Pitching Coach $90K 7 56 3 15 7 46 28 26
Ren Nakamura 40 HiA 5 Bench Coach $90K 22 26 34 16 21 53 55 38


AAA Coaches
Name Age Level Exp Role Salary
Mendy Zimmer 64 ML 13 Fielding Instructor $750K 37 19 88 37 13 74 65 58
Clarence Lewis 45 AAA 15 Hitting Coach $246K 84 6 33 45 67 42 18 50
J.P. Mateo 31 AAA 4 Pitching Coach $240K 4 48 5 9 3 35 50 82
Albert Infante 41 AAA 7 Bench Coach $240K 40 25 32 22 77 52 46 73
8/31/2012 12:46 PM
mezirah
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what you posted is completely wrong.  I dunno.

8/31/2012 4:52 PM
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