Top players still resign too easily Topic

ttnorm
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The unrealisticly below market demands of the top players helps to unrealistically perpetuate the supremacy of the top teams.

Has there been any discussion along the lines of implementing an Offer Sheet contract? Players who were in a free agency season could receive qualifying offers that would need to be matched by the existing club to retain the player. Thoughts?

10/3/2009 2:25 PM
MikeT23
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Seems every stud on my teams are quite content to hit the open market.
10/3/2009 2:55 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 10/03/2009Seems every stud on my teams are quite content to hit the open market
Not on mine. Would you agree that it is unrealistic to be able to accept contract extention demands at the below market rates as the SIM currently does?
10/3/2009 3:21 PM
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Tough to say. I think MLB players occassionally give the "home team" discount while others pass on more money to play in a situation that makes them comfortable.

I'd hate to see EVERY HBD player test the market when their contract expires.
10/3/2009 3:46 PM
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Radke -

unfortunately none of my teams have had a Radke, they go to FA -
10/3/2009 3:50 PM
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Greg Maddux passed on the Yankees and a pile of dough in the 90s.
10/3/2009 3:53 PM
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Agreed, but no MLB player who would be worth $15M+ on the open market ever signs for less than $10.
10/3/2009 3:54 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By grivfmd1 on 10/03/2009
Radke -

unfortunately none of my teams have had a Radke, they go to FA -

These exceptions are few and far between.
10/3/2009 3:55 PM
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I'm not sure what the "open market" in MLB pays these days. I know A-Rod, Manny, Dunn, Abreu, etc., etc. certainly thought they were worth more than they got.
10/3/2009 3:58 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 10/03/2009I'm not sure what the "open market" in MLB pays these days. I know A-Rod, Manny, Dunn, Abreu, etc., etc. certainly thought they were worth more than they got
The market is determined by the buyer's offer not the seller's asking price. The fact that none of those guys hit their asking price is not indicative that the open market did not determine their salary. But back to topic, in HBD, the asking prices of top players in their prime are on the opposite end of the spectrum and well below market, agreed?
10/3/2009 4:59 PM
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We have a cap on salary MLB doesn't. You seem to want to find a way to make everyone equal in spite of their talent in playing the game.

We're all dealing with the same type of numbers, its not like somebodys getting an edge on FAs.
10/3/2009 5:08 PM
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Said the football alias.. haha
10/3/2009 5:09 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By ttnorm on 10/03/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 10/03/2009
I'm not sure what the "open market" in MLB pays these days. I know A-Rod, Manny, Dunn, Abreu, etc., etc. certainly thought they were worth more than they got.
The market is determined by the buyer's offer not the seller's asking price. The fact that none of those guys hit their asking price is not indicative that the open market did not determine their salary. But back to topic, in HBD, the asking prices of top players in their prime are on the opposite end of the spectrum and well below market, agreed?


Have you ever seen any Type A/B go unsigned in your worlds?
10/3/2009 5:20 PM
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Yeah, I'm confused by this, looks to me like any good player is bolting. The only thing I can think of is that you think some really crappy players are better than they really are.
10/3/2009 7:09 PM
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It would be awfully complex for the HBD sim to determine an open market value for each player. The only reference right now is a crappy overall formula.

And regardless of how you feel about studs testing the market or not, signing offer sheets with an opportunity to match has absolutely nothing to do with real life.
10/3/2009 7:11 PM
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