Do NL pitchers experience more fatigue? Topic

This thought came to my mind due to a situation that arose because of injuries on my Low A team. I was forced to use one of my Low A mopups as a DH for 3 games as I was hit with a rash of position player injuries.

Obviously after 3 games at DH, the poor pitcher was sitting at like 23 (27) for fatigue. It got me wondering...at the big league level my pitchers (in particular my starting pitchers) are also getting PAs. Are they experiencing more fatigue - both in game, and especially after the game - and if so, does this has a negative effect on the upper limits of their pitch count?

We know from my Low A example that pitchers PAs do adversely affect their fatigue level. If this is the case at the big league level as well, then are all NL pitchers are at a fatigue disadvantage over the course of the season to their AL counterparts who do not get PAs.

The fatigue difference may be negligible (as pitchers don't rack up that many PAs over the course of the season), but PAs are tied to fatigue level and that may be a disadvantage for NL pitchers vs. AL (although not pitching to a DH with a big bat is still enough advantage for me).
10/8/2009 10:04 AM
Anytime you use a pitcher as a position player, his fatigue will get all screwed up.

It has nothing to do with PA's. I think it's just the way the engine handles fatigue for position players vs. pitchers.
10/8/2009 10:08 AM
Having pitchers play as position players screws up fatigue beyond repair. Had simmy manage the minors in one world, and he overpromoted position players---forcing pitchers to play the field in rookie league. Killed them, despite having about 15 pitchers with relatively good stamina/dur.

I watch the minors a bit more closely now.

To answer your question, I dont think NL pitchers batting hurts them. Its playing at a 'position' other than pitcher. The engine doesnt differentiate fatigue between DH, or a shortstop, or whatever.
10/8/2009 10:11 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By dmurphy104 on 10/08/2009
Having pitchers play as position players screws up fatigue beyond repair. Had simmy manage the minors in one world, and he overpromoted position players---forcing pitchers to play the field in rookie league. Killed them, despite having about 15 pitchers with relatively good stamina/dur.

I watch the minors a bit more closely now.

To answer your question, I dont think NL pitchers batting hurts them. Its playing at a 'position' other than pitcher. The engine doesnt differentiate fatigue between DH, or a shortstop, or whatever.
i'm pretty sure that in a dev chat they stated there is a hierarchy of fatigue at different positions with catchers tiring the quickest and DHs the slowest
10/8/2009 11:36 AM
I'll try to dig up a ticket where I asked about catcher fatigue--that I think said the opposite.
10/8/2009 12:44 PM
I couldnt have been more wrong.



Fatigue is based on plate appearances and time in the field, so a guy tires more behind the plate than at 1B or DH. Catcher is the most exhausting position. With a durability of 76, he definitely needs time off occasionally.
10/8/2009 12:47 PM
it's an interesting question, does anyone closely track pitch counts/fatigue and who has both NL and AL teams able to comment on this?
10/8/2009 1:27 PM
I tried to go back and search stats for previous season in our league to see if pitch count leaders fort he past few years have been ALers or NLers, but the only thing that I could derive is that bad pitchers throw more pitches, and that is not really news.
10/9/2009 10:00 AM
Do NL pitchers experience more fatigue? Topic

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