Hi all, I had a post bookmarked that had accurate numbers of PA per spot with all the numbers to the digit. Today I looked and it has either disappeared or deleted. If anyone can help with finding these numbers, that would be great.

It started with 767 and I think grizzly made the post with the numbers by position but the thread was started by someone else. If there is another place to get the information rather than bookmarking a post, I'll take that as well.

Thanks
JJ

I used to use that one but that is just a rough estimate from what I remember and the one I was looking for was exact as I check with a league I finished recently. I guess that will have to do.

I can't open the link bird posted (at work, blocked)...but I found a post by Sheller in the "Advice for a new player" thread that broke it out. Search by Sheller or by the thread and you should find it.

That post is the link, thanks though

When you consider that a team plays 162 games and SOMEBODY has to be the last out, if one presumes that each batting slot is equally likely to end the game, you'll figure that if X is the number of PA for the leadoff hitter,

#2 will have X-18 plate appearances (18 = 162 games divided by 9 hitting slots)

#3 will have X-36 plate appearances

#4 will have X-54 plate appearances

And so on... with the #9 slot having 144 fewer PA than the #1 slot.

remember to take into account the 10% bonus.......

Quote: Originally Posted By toddcommish on 10/12/2009

if one presumes that each batting slot is equally likely to end the game

high OBP hitter is less likely to end the game. so the PA dropoff after high OBP slots shold be less than 18, and higher when he follows a low OBP hitters.

Hi all, thanks for the responses. Special thanks to Grizzly for posting that chart which I was using a prior version of and mentioned in the opening post.

Grizzly, What changes would you make for a $120 mil league?
Thanks

actually I get slightly fewer PA at $100-120m because the opposing pitching is solid. you don't get as many of those games with large number of PAs.

Interesting idea, rbow and it does have some merit depending on the type of league one foresees.

I was building a team for a league that I joined because I like to build the type of teams this league is about. It is the doubles league in the theme league forums at $120 mil with no AAA by dorkster. I built my bench as if they were a pick you own AAA in the sense that I picked a C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, and OF all under $2 mil and use the remaining funds to build the team. Using the revised list above, I'll check my picks and see if they still fit.

Do you think that the way I'm building the offense will work for a $120 mil no AAA league or I should pick scrubs for the bench and use the most funds possible in building the starting lineup? My thought was that if I build a tiny bench, then it will be helpful late in the game and in games that are not division/league games. A method of saving PAs while not throwing those games either.

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try it and find out, that's half the fun. full time hitters are a lot more popular but one of the reasons is bacause those teams are easier to manage. If you want to spend time managing a team there are a lot of other ideas that can work. split squad teams are notorious for being good playoff teams but not as easy to make the playoffs.

I understand the math, each spot in the lineup dropping 18 PA's. While the math is correct, is the concept correct? By dividing 144 by 8, aren't you saying that each of the first 8 spots in the lineup have an equal chance at having the last plate appearance in a game? Since the player batting first has more PA's than the #8 hitter, doesn't he have a greater than 1 in 8 chance in making the final plate appearance? I am just not certain the decline in required PA's as you advance through the lineup is linear, but freely admit I may be wrong, convince me.

Nto even taking into account, better hitters, hitters near the top of a lineup usually make less outs per PA than hitters near the bottom of a lineup - so how could the decline be linear?

No, those extra PA happen in the 1st inning not the 9th. the dropoff isnt exactly 18 for other reasons. different OBP affects the dropoff, as stated earlier. also the number of batters per game isnt randomly distributed, though this is a negligible factor.

does anyone have that chart that grizz posted a while ago? after searching far and wide...as you can see, i cant find it anywhere. i just got a new comp and lost the info.