Low splits, great elsewhere - thoughts? Topic

I generally avoid pitchers with splits below 65, but this one intrigues me and wanted to get a consensus

Dur: 34
Hlth: 99
Patience: 95
Makeup: 80
Sta: 78
Ctrl: 100
vL: 47
vR: 66
Vel: 100
Grnd/Fly: 100
#1: 91
#2: 86
#3: 72

He's 23 and actually on pace to get real close to these projections. Overall: 83

If his splits were even above 60, I'd annoint this guy a 2-time Cy Young. Instead, could be Anthony Young...

I'm mainly inclined to trade him, but what does everyone think of this pitcher with a solid defense and at Jacob's Field or spacious Kauffman Stadium?

Thanks...
10/15/2009 11:22 AM
How many teams can send 6-7 ies to the plate?
10/15/2009 11:32 AM
I think he will do pretty well. He at least has one acceptable split. Comparable to, but better than this guy:

http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1773270

10/15/2009 11:35 AM
With a good infield and in a pitcher-friendly stadium, he could be decent.

Not good, not great... decent.
10/15/2009 11:36 AM
So if I could get this guy, age 23, with projections (and near them too).

Dur: 35
Hlth: 43 (scary)
Sta: 59
Ctrl: 95
vL: 78
vR: 81
Vel: 89
Gr/Fly: 89
#1: 88
#2 72

More my type of guy. Granted, a long reliever, but still.

Only problem here is, as a long reliever, I'd hope for more appearances and with his HLTH, likely will be DL bound 1-2 times/year. Ugh.

Anyway, trade straight up or shop... I like to shop around these guys, but those splits are alarming on the pitcher mentioned at the top.
10/15/2009 12:04 PM
I've had some success with low vL pitchers. With all of his other numbers, your guy will be better than these:

Alvarez

Little

Burks

10/15/2009 12:04 PM
Don't know how to insert the player links, but...

Derek Brooks
24/79 DUR/STA
87 Control
53/69 Splits
98 Velocity, 40 Groundball
81, 68, 68, 58, 16 pitches

4.40 ERA and 1.35 WHIP in 681 innings in Citizen's Bank Park (-1, 0, 0, 1, 1)

Your guy should be better than Brooks if he hits his projections, but at 23, he should be almost there by now.
10/15/2009 12:58 PM
No walks, no homers, lots of strikeouts, lots of double plays. Sign me up. I'd consider him as a closer actually. Especially with only 3 pitches (I like starters to have at least 4 pitches) and 2 of the pitches are over 85. He could be a 2 inning closer and pitch almost every day.

That's a little radical though, I know. I'd take him as a starter too.
10/15/2009 10:54 PM
Major sucsess with low splits big controll and vGB FB guys. Hit that **** all night long.
10/15/2009 10:56 PM
Quote: Originally posted by chadrader on 10/15/2009So if I could get this guy, age 23, with projections (and near them too).

Dur: 35
Hlth: 43 (scary)
Sta: 59
Ctrl: 95
vL: 78
vR: 81
Vel: 89
Gr/Fly: 89
#1: 88
#2 72

More my type of guy. Granted, a long reliever, but still.

Only problem here is, as a long reliever, I'd hope for more appearances and with his HLTH, likely will be DL bound 1-2 times/year. Ugh.

Anyway, trade straight up or shop... I like to shop around these guys, but those splits are alarming on the pitcher mentioned at the top.

If his dur is actually 35 he can start and pitch 175 IP a year.
10/15/2009 11:34 PM
Sam Stewart won the Cy Young with a vs R of 59. Chadrader, your player will be good. Probably not Cy Young caliber but still really good.
10/16/2009 1:19 AM
At those projections or close that guys is going to be very good. The low vs L and so-so vs R arent' ideal, but everything else is so spectacular--100 velocity and 100 ground ball....and two pitches above 85? Of course a good infield to scoop up those ground balls helps, but with 100 velocity he's going to roll up some Ks. Stop worrying and get him in there.
10/16/2009 10:29 AM
I don't know if I'd be trusting those 12 mill advanced scouting projectins that much. A key sign your projections aren't all that great is 100 on control, velocity and gb/fb.

The other big sign when looking at that guy's player card is the fact he's at 24 durability (has never improved) and you project him to 35.

He has certainly improved at a rapid pace up until this point, but I wouldn't be all too surprised if he hardly improves at all this being his 4th season.

I'd rate him around 50th percentile as he is now and 30th percentile if he can improve everything by 5 points each.
10/16/2009 12:28 PM
All the proof you need that pitchers can get by with low vsL with other quality stats is Vance Weaver, a two time Cy Young winner and top five guy in most important pitching categories in Cobb World. Your guy should be ok.
10/16/2009 1:55 PM
he's a definite #5 starter or long relief a
10/16/2009 2:22 PM
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