Just a few games into the season. I was wondering when exactly I could call up a player without starting their clock a year earlier. I forget how this works. The player is nicholas lee in AAA for Nashville if it matters. I can't link, as I'm on my phone. After the allstar break? Thanks

Here's the link: Nashville Troubadors

As soon as you add him to the 40 man roster that's an option year. I don't that matters because once this guy hits the Bigs that's where he'll stay. If you wait until the minor league season is >20 HBD days, then this year won't count as a ML service year which will delay arbitration a year. Unless of course WIS implements a Super Two update, which they should do, but I don't believe is on their radar.

Thanks for the link and the reply. I was thinking about the arbitration ramifications... So 20 actual days and I can bring him up and save a year, ya?

You should wait until 21 "ML cycles" pass. Off days count, but yes, after 21 of them you will be safe and they will be able to get 4 pre arbitration seasons in.

Its advisable to put them on the inactive list at AAA prior to promotion, so they dont get fatigue / injured

dherz is close but off by 1 day (and it's a crucial 1 day). The ML schedule starts 2 cycles ahead of the AAA schedule, so if you promoted after 21 ML cycles (days), that would be 19 AAA cycles (days).

Here's the language about how it actually works (from Admin Office > Help > FAQ, then scroll down to "Players"):

"...Each day a player is on the big league roster during the regular season (even if he's on the DL), he accrues a day of service. In addition, we track the # of days a player is on optional assignment on a minor league team. If a player is on optional assignment less than 20 days during the season, this total is added to his big league service time. At the end of the season, if a player has 172 days or more (including any optional service days < 20), he is given a year of big league experience. If not, the days roll over into the next season. These years are what dictate arbitration eligibility and free-agent eligibility.

It is important to note that a player registers days on optional assignment only after the minor league schedule has begun. There is typically a 1 or 2 HBD day difference between when the big league schedule starts and when the minor league schedule starts."

So...20 days in the minors, THEN you're OK to promote and you won't accrue a year of ML service time. I have no idea why the language above says there is "typically a 1 or 2 HBD day difference between when the big league schedule starts and when the minor league schedule starts." Maybe it varies, but EVERY time I've looked at it there's a 2 day difference. In any event, count the MINOR LEAGUE DAYS...when you get to 20, you're good.

Thanks for that

Thanks for that

Quote: Originally Posted By s_gammon on 10/26/2009As soon as you add him to the 40 man roster that's an option year. I don't that matters because once this guy hits the Bigs that's where he'll stay. If you wait until the minor league season is >20 HBD days, then this year won't count as a ML service year which will delay arbitration a year. Unless of course WIS implements a Super Two update, which they should do, but I don't believe is on their radar

Has this been done, do we know?

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