Minor league millionaires problem still Topic

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WiS claimed in a post on the Update Forum:
"Minor League free agent demands will be adjusted so that fringe big leaguers will no longer seek multi-year deals making them unattractive."

Yet, this obviously has not been done in our world which rolled over 11/19.
Willie Sanchez is demanding $3.0 M
Mark Yamaguchi is demanding $2.8 M
Brant Robinson is demanding $4.2 M

Those are just several examples.

A player who has NEVER played in the major leagues should NOT be demanding more money than someone with three or more years of major league experience. There is no justification for it. What self-respecting owner would shell out $10 Million for those three players??? Few teams would sign these players for the major league minimum much less for multi-million multi-year deals. In real life those players would be begging for minor league contracts with spring training invites at most.

You've been saying for a long time you would fix this. Fix this.
11/20/2009 9:25 AM
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No, it's not a problem. If they're not good enough for their demands, don't sign them. Problem solved. You're welcome.
11/20/2009 9:37 AM
gman981981
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I can see these guys holding out for ML money or they'll just retire or something. It doesn't make sense for them to ask for that much but its not that big of a deal...hurts minor league depth though.
11/20/2009 9:53 AM
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I think he is complaining more along the lines that he would like to sign them to minor league contracts and it is foolish to have them asking for that kind of money.
11/20/2009 9:54 AM
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If they were worth keeping, their owner(s) should have put them in their 40 and kept them.

Blame the owners that let them go, not WIS.
11/20/2009 9:55 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 11/20/2009No, it's not a problem. If they're not good enough for their demands, don't sign them. Problem solved. You're welcome
+1
11/20/2009 10:07 AM
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I think the point is that it isn't realistic, and WIS said it would be changed to be more realistic.

Realistically, a 6-yr MLFA with a higher OVR and AAA experience might shoot for $1M or so, and maybe he gets it, or he gets signed mid-season for $250,000 or so, and plays in AAA. A guy with a lower OVR might ask for $327,000 and get it, or get signed for $100,000 or so midseason.

Anything beyond that basically guarantees that a) the guy won't get signed for what he wants, and that b) he'll remain in FA limbo forever, because he'll never be cheap enough to sign as a minor-leaguer mid-season.

Losing those 25 or 50 guys each year can take a toll on minor-league depth. And given that they aren't true major-league prospects, it's not fair to ask owners to keep them on their 40-man rosters, just so that they stay at $55,000.
11/20/2009 2:52 PM
MikeT23
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You're 25 years old. You've been playing ball for minor league money for 6 seasons. Maybe you just retire. You know you're not a prospect anymore.

That's all these guys are doing. They're retiring. You just don't like the way they're doing it.
11/20/2009 2:55 PM
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The only problem I can see with it has to deal with new players. I know my first season, I signed a 6-year guy to a large multi-year deal that was rated something like a 72 overall because I didnt know any better. While this isnt a major problem, it could have the potential to affect the competitive balance of a world somewhat.
11/20/2009 3:10 PM
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The related problem I see is that after the first few weeks of the season there are are almost no position players available as minor league free agents. If these fringe players did not expect big league contracts the number available to fill out minor league teams would grow.

It would be nice to see some of these guys lower their demands to minor league contracts eventually.

edit: In Ruth we are 14 games into the season and there are 9 minor league free agent position players. Plenty of arms. No position guys.
11/20/2009 3:47 PM
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I don't think it's a big deal, but its still not realistic. If they signed minor league deals they'd still be getting 55k. That's not a great living, but considering if one of them was drafted out of high school, he'd be 24 with only a high school degree.....I think a lot more of them would be willing to come back and play than is being shown. Especially for ML minimum instead of 55k.
11/20/2009 4:01 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By BrianCampos on 11/20/2009

The related problem I see is that after the first few weeks of the season there are are almost no position players available as minor league free agents. If these fringe players did not expect big league contracts the number available to fill out minor league teams would grow.

It would be nice to see some of these guys lower their demands to minor league contracts eventually.>>



Agreed. A guy can ask for $3M, but if no one offers it, owners should be able to offer minor-league contracts, with a chance that the player will accept.

At the very least, this will help with minor-league depth.

11/20/2009 5:09 PM
MikeT23
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Here, I'll help you folks with your minor league issues. SIGN YOUR F'ING DRAFT PICKS!!!!

Problem solved. You're welcome.
11/20/2009 5:17 PM
shobob
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I think the point here is that WIS said in a recent update that minor leaguers and fringe players won't be asking for unrealistic contracts, and it hasn't seem to have happened. No need to stomp on the guy for pointing something out.
11/20/2009 7:26 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 11/20/2009
Here, I'll help you folks with your minor league issues.   SIGN YOUR F'ING DRAFT PICKS!!!!Problem solved.  You're welcome.

And release the crappy minor leaguers in your system that you don't promote at the end of the season who would otherwise retire. They might help someone else (or even you!) cover an injury the following season.
11/21/2009 6:55 AM
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