...and as we move towards 3/4 of a year without significant improvement or change, I've dropped another team.

It's crazy to think I once had 15 teams. Now 4... with limited interest in the others. At this pace, I may not make it to whatever engine upgrade is planned.

I am a New Guy.......and I am having a Blast!

I'm still having fun. I have more teams recently then I ever did before potential. It is no longer jus recruit, set the same practice plan for every guard/big and then have your 80/80/80 guards go up against theres. Now you have strengths and weaknesses and there is slightly more strat involved because of how many different types of players there are. No longer is everyone perfect you have to build your team around what they can do and try to hide what they can't do. It is no longer a cup cake type game and some coaches just can't handle that anymore.

Is it the engine or that you've reached maximum utility with this product based upon the number of games/seasons coached? How long does one think it is sustainable to have 15, 10 or even 7 teams?

Personally, I have kept my teams at a low number in order to prolong the use of the product for myself. Teams/players are more personal when the number of teams is limited. Even in limiting my teams I have become bored at times with this game.

Recently, I have taken over a D+ prestige DI team and it really changed the game for me. Added more excitement, strategy to recruiting, scheduling and game planning/depth charts. I'm going to try and build a program at a low-level school which I haven't done in a long time. I would recommend this for someone who is finding themselves bored/frustrated with the same old stuff.

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per/bh/passing. As long as you signed them above 40/40/40 they would gain 40+ by the end of the careers at any level. Now you won't have highs in every area to get 25+ ath/speed as well 40+ per/bh/passing on every guard.

Furry, you have lost the ability to create a thoughtful practice plan. How can you even begin to say that there is more excitement this way? A strategy and coaching tool has been destroyed.

I lost that ability before potential. My practice plans NEVER changed. For bigs it was 20 cond/20 REB/20 LP/11 FT. Whatever went into any improveable areas (def/pass/per/bh/sh) For guards it was always 20 cond/17-20 in passing/bh/per and 11 in FT. Whatever went to def, reb, sh mins. For SF this was the only one that took effort, but mainly 20 cond, 15-20 reb, 12-17 LP/per and whatever in bh/passing/SH. With potential I have to decide if I want to max an area out fast, how many minutes to put towards it etc knowing that it won't go up the same rate as before. It is much different now and my practice plans have actually changed player to player hugely. To me that is much more exciting building different types of players rather then the same player year in and year out just with a different name.

Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 12/08/2009Furry, you have lost the ability to create a thoughtful practice plan. How can you even begin to say that there is more excitement this way? A strategy and coaching tool has been destroyed

He raises an interesting point which isnt really looked at to often.

ANd from the soudn of it a differnt tool and strategy has been created. . .

Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 12/08/2009I lost that ability before potential. My practice plans NEVER changed. For bigs it was 20 cond/20 REB/20 LP/11 FT. Whatever went into any improveable areas (def/pass/per/bh/sh) For guards it was always 20 cond/17-20 in passing/bh/per and 11 in FT. Whatever went to def, reb, sh mins. For SF this was the only one that took effort, but mainly 20 cond, 15-20 reb, 12-17 LP/per and whatever in bh/passing/SH. With potential I have to decide if I want to max an area out fast, how many minutes to put towards it etc knowing that it won't go up the same rate as before. It is much different now and my practice plans have actually changed player to player hugely. To me that is much more exciting building different types of players rather then the same player year in and year out just with a different name.

I would argue you were not taking advantage of a very useful tool in building your team.

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 12/08/2009I lost that ability before potential. My practice plans NEVER changed. For bigs it was 20 cond/20 REB/20 LP/11 FT. Whatever went into any improveable areas (def/pass/per/bh/sh) For guards it was always 20 cond/17-20 in passing/bh/per and 11 in FT. Whatever went to def, reb, sh mins. For SF this was the only one that took effort, but mainly 20 cond, 15-20 reb, 12-17 LP/per and whatever in bh/passing/SH. With potential I have to decide if I want to max an area out fast, how many minutes to put towards it etc knowing that it won't go up the same rate as before. It is much different now and my practice plans have actually changed player to player hugely. To me that is much more exciting building different types of players rather then the same player year in and year out just with a different name.

It's the opposite for me, my practice plan hasn't changed since potential has been added. I know they will max out in every catergory, even the high potential guys, so basically just give each player about 12 minutes in just about every skill. Even with a couple of minutes over the 7-10 threshold I'm still seeing significant increases in ratings.

Before potential, for a guard, I would put 25 each for PE/Pass/Cond/BH. No longer the case.

Quote: Originally Posted By thewizard2 on 12/08/2009

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 12/08/2009 I lost that ability before potential. My practice plans NEVER changed. For bigs it was 20 cond/20 REB/20 LP/11 FT. Whatever went into any improveable areas (def/pass/per/bh/sh) For guards it was always 20 cond/17-20 in passing/bh/per and 11 in FT. Whatever went to def, reb, sh mins. For SF this was the only one that took effort, but mainly 20 cond, 15-20 reb, 12-17 LP/per and whatever in bh/passing/SH. With potential I have to decide if I want to max an area out fast, how many minutes to put towards it etc knowing that it won't go up the same rate as before. It is much different now and my practice plans have actually changed player to player hugely. To me that is much more exciting building different types of players rather then the same player year in and year out just with a different name.

It's the opposite for me, my practice plan hasn't changed since potential has been added. I know they will max out in every catergory, even the high potential guys, so basically just give each player about 12 minutes in just about every skill. Even with a couple of minutes over the 7-10 threshold I'm still seeing significant increases in ratings

Why would you do this? Why wouldn't you max out core skills first then move to non-core? Learn how to run a practice.

Quote: Originally Posted By thewizard2 on 12/08/2009Before potential, for a guard, I would put 25 each for PE/Pass/Cond/BH. No longer the case

What a waste of 20 practice minutes.