how often do they actually sign when their demands are met?

None will ever sign with you.

In case you haven't noticed, you're kind of embarrassing me. You're in MG and you're asking n00b questions.

you don't seem to have an answer.

all i know is that sometimes they sign, sometimes they don't. i have no idea if it's closer to 10% or 50%. if you don't know either, that means you should probably STFU.

Around 10-20% will come back with an increased demand, often more than you have in available prospect budget. Making the offer still pays off, though, because it's the only way to get your Type D comp pick next season if he's a first rounder.

And I'm still available as a replacement owner, Mike.

It's a n00b question because it can't be answered with any accuracy. A few owners have 100 seasons under their belt. So, at max, they've drafted less than 3000 players. Of those 3000, I'd be surprised if more than 50 have fallen under the "probably won't sign" category. Of those 50, they probably haven't even bothered to offer half of them a contract. At the end of the day, even the most experienced owner has going to have dealings with 25 of these players. Therefore, if he signed 5, is the answer 20%?

OR IS IT A RIDICULOUSLY SMALL SIZE WHERE ANSWERS CAN ONLY BE BASED ON HEARSAY AND BEST GUESSES?!?!?!?!?!?!?

If so, the exact number is 23.74%.

After they increase their demands, you still have a shot. I had a guy ask for $11M on an increased demand after rejecting the initial offer. Since I found myself at the end of the year with about $8M in prospect over, the draft pick was still a better option than spending it on junk. So I just kept offering the same amount and having it rejected over and over again, until right at the end of the regular season, when the guy signed for the $8M. (I have hunch I could have held out for even lower).

So yes, I think it's possible..

(Edit) After re-reading your question, I would probably say they would almost never sign for their initial demands, but the bottom line is that you still have a shot.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/02/2010It's a n00b question because it can't be answered with any accuracy.  A few owners have 100 seasons under their belt.   So, at max, they've drafted less than 3000 players.  Of those 3000, I'd be surprised if more than 50 have fallen under the "probably won't sign" category.  Of those 50, they probably haven't even bothered to offer half of them a contract.   At the end of the day, even the most experienced owner has going to have dealings with 25 of these players.   Therefore, if he signed 5, is the answer 20%?OR IS IT A RIDICULOUSLY SMALL SIZE WHERE ANSWERS CAN ONLY BE BASED ON HEARSAY AND BEST GUESSES?!?!?!?!?!?!?If so, the exact number is 23.74%. 

or maybe somebody has tracked drafts in multiple worlds to track how often somebody who probably won't sign does vs. those that result in a type D pick the next season.

it's a small sample size but with all of the world rankings and whatnot, you never know what info somebody has in an excel worksheet.

Quote: Originally posted by silentpadna on 2/02/2010After they increase their demands, you still have a shot.  I had a guy ask for $11M on an increased demand after rejecting the initial offer.  Since I found myself at the end of the year with about $8M in prospect over, the draft pick was still a better option than spending it on junk.  So I just kept offering the same amount and having it rejected over and over again, until right at the end of the regular season, when the guy signed for the $8M.  (I have hunch I could have held out for even lower).So yes, I think it's possible..(Edit)  After re-reading your question, I would probably say they would almost never sign for their initial demands, but the bottom line is that you still have a shot.

wow, that's a very interesting strategy. so he started out asking for $8M, rejected your offer and bumped his demands to $11M, but then ultimately signed for $8 after repeated offers? didn't know you could do that.

at least one person in this thread is helpful!

OK, when someone come in here and says "I've tracked hundreds of drafts. I have seen 1,348,753 "probably won't sign" players. After contacting every owner, take make sure he offered the player a contract, I have determined that 23.74% of them actually sign."



And then we're right where I said.

you don't have to contact the owner, just check out if he gets a type D pick the following year. if he doesn't, either he signed or didn't get an offer.

Quit embarrassing MG with your dumbassery.

23.74% of them sign. Exactly 23.74%.

You're welcome.

once again, you answer my question with impeccable precision. you're the best.