Reward Points Reductions Topic

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I'll probably get flamed for this, but that's half the fun.

In Tark, I was fired two seasons ago from New Mexico. I wasn't eligible for any D1 jobs, so I took over D2 New Haven. I squeaked into the NT last season as a #15 seed and (as expected) lost to a #2 seed.

I thought this would qualify me back into D1, at least at a D- school, but it did not.

The issue i have is that I only received 75% reward points for my NT appearance, because it was my 4th overall appearance in the world. I'd love to move back into D1, but Simmy won't let me, yet I can't receive full reward points because I made the NT 3 times many, many seasons ago. I think that either 1) 3 NT seasons in D2 should qualify you for D1, whether they were in the last four seasons or not or 2) reward point restrictions should only be in place when you're qualified to move into D1, but choose not to.

Again, just me whining! Disagree away!
2/10/2010 11:01 AM
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I agree reward points should not be reduced, it is a major part of why the lower levels are so empty.
2/10/2010 11:03 AM
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I, on the other hand, have no problem with it. The whole point of the game is to create a D1 dynasty and having empty or near-empty D1 conferences is contrary to that goal, IMHO.
2/10/2010 11:17 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By doomey on 2/10/2010I, on the other hand, have no problem with it. The whole point of the game is to create a D1 dynasty and having empty or near-empty D1 conferences is contrary to that goal, IMHO.
Really? I missed that part in the name. I didn't realize it was called Hoops Division 1 Dynasty.
2/10/2010 11:33 AM
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Not sure where I stand on whether reward points should be reduced more generally.

I think most people will play at whatever division they want (assuming they can get up that high), regardless of the reward point structure.

I thought the point of these reductions was to discourage people from camping out in the lower divisions. How can you, then, penalize people who are actually trying to move up, but can't? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
2/10/2010 11:45 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By hitman1979 on 2/10/2010Not sure where I stand on whether reward points should be reduced more generally.

I think most people will play at whatever division they want (assuming they can get up that high), regardless of the reward point structure. Not true. There are many many coaches who have dropped teams at lower levels because of the reduction.

I thought the point of these reductions was to discourage people from camping out in the lower divisions. How can you, then, penalize people who are actually trying to move up, but can't? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. The whole reward reduction doesn't make sense. Why is my money worth more then yours in terms of reward points at d1 then at d2? We pay the same for the game regardless of division.
2/10/2010 11:50 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By doomey on 2/10/2010
I, on the other hand, have no problem with it. The whole point of the game is to create a D1 dynasty and having empty or near-empty D1 conferences is contrary to that goal, IMHO.
Really? I missed that part in the name. I didn't realize it was called Hoops Division 1 Dynasty
2/10/2010 12:08 PM
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I agree with zhakws. If I am enjoying my D II or D III program, why is the value of me buying a season and making the NT worth less than someone buying a season and doing the same at D I?
2/10/2010 12:40 PM
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For the record, we have asked seble about this and he has said it is something they are talking about but there is no guarantee anything will change. I will see if I can find exactly what he said.
2/10/2010 12:50 PM
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Quote post by seble on 1/12/2010 10:55:00 AM:
A lot of this is not my area. There is a big difference to us between credits and reward points though. So we're looking into changing some of those reward points for tournament results into credits, at which point there may be less of a need to include the reductions. I'm not going to disagree with some of the points made here, because they are valid, but I have been around HD since the beginning. I haven't always been actively involved, but I have been involved.
2/10/2010 12:52 PM
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2/10/2010 12:53 PM
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The issue seems to be the gift certificates for other sites.
2/10/2010 12:55 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By doomey on 2/10/2010
I, on the other hand, have no problem with it. The whole point of the game is to create a D1 dynasty and having empty or near-empty D1 conferences is contrary to that goal, IMHO.
Really? I missed that part in the name. I didn't realize it was called Hoops Division 1 Dynasty


Really, z? You have to argue this? It is patently clear based on how the game is set up and rewarded. Can you build other dynasties? of course, but the stated goal of the game is that the it "is your chance to work your way to the top of the college basketball coaching world!" now if you think the top of the coaching world is D3, then I don't know what to tell you. Silly argument to pick.
2/10/2010 1:19 PM
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That's just awful rationale. The more experienced coaches, the more active the coaches corner, the more tips the new players can get, the more fun they will have, etc.

People come in and get dominated anyway. Or they pick up a decent school. Just dumb.
2/10/2010 1:23 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By doomey on 2/10/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 2/10/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By doomey on 2/10/2010
I, on the other hand, have no problem with it. The whole point of the game is to create a D1 dynasty and having empty or near-empty D1 conferences is contrary to that goal, IMHO.
Really? I missed that part in the name. I didn't realize it was called Hoops Division 1 Dynasty.



Really, z? You have to argue this? It is patently clear based on how the game is set up and rewarded. Can you build other dynasties? of course, but the stated goal of the game is that the it "is your chance to work your way to the top of the college basketball coaching world!" now if you think the top of the coaching world is D3, then I don't know what to tell you. Silly argument to pick.
Trust me, I'm with you on z picking bad arguments, but I don't think this is one. The stated goal of the game? No, that's an advertising statement used to entice people to play. I doubt it works.

People play because they enjoy the game. Some want to get to the top, others don't. They should do some actual research to find out if business would actually decline the way they think it would, which it probably wouldn't, because the game is supported by current coaches anyway.
2/10/2010 1:25 PM
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