Pitch Calling and its effect on my ERA Topic

I am trying to decide on my catchers on my team in Jersey League. One is a fairly solid bat but with a 72 PC. The other has a dismal bat but has a 93PC (currently sitting in my AAA).

What effect does PC have on my pitchers? How would a 50PC be different then a 90PC?
2/13/2010 8:59 PM
Pitch calling effects the strength of the pitches. I know that isn't much help. Your guy will still be wild if hes wild, etc. Its a slight help. 72 PC is very good for a C that can hit. It might make your 90 1st pitch a 92. I believe it also effects WHAT pitch to throw. Maybe your C knows the guy can't hit a curve for instance.. stuff like that.
2/13/2010 9:07 PM
I thought PC was help in choosing which pitch got selected to, well pitch.
2/13/2010 9:14 PM
The search function is your friend.

There have been many threads that discuss this. MikeT23 claimed that a difference in 40 can be as much as .5 in your ERA. Others thought that it might be closer to .2, or even as low as .15.
2/13/2010 9:16 PM
PC probably is overrated, at least generally. It was the rating du jour for a while, but I suspect the best answer is, "it depends." In a hitters park or with so-so pitchers, high PC would be a big help... but if you have good pitchers and a neutral or pitcher-friendly park, you can easily get away with something in the 50s, even 40s, sometimes lower.
2/13/2010 9:27 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By mitchrapp on 2/13/2010I thought PC was help in choosing which pitch got selected to, well pitch
It modifies the pitches and pitch selection. Same difference more or less.
2/13/2010 11:23 PM
For whatever its worth I'd take a slugging 50-70 guy over a weak hitting 90s guy any day. I feel that arm strength and accuracy makes more of a difference game to game with the base stealers. Its really a preference and Im not sure either comes out ahead. It'll do what you think it does. PC guy you'll score less and give up less. The opposite with the lower PC guy.
2/13/2010 11:27 PM
I believe the consensus is that WiS has said that PC is a direct modifier of OAV, which is to say it boosts splits, and has little or no effect on pitches. Furthermore, I am pretty sure that it has been established that ABs are not simulated on a "pitch-by-pitch" basis, with vaious of the pitcher's pitches selected to be thrown. All the ratings are thrown in a hopper and the outcome of the AB is determined. I could be wrong, but I believe this is the consensus.
2/13/2010 11:38 PM
That said, 70's PC for a slugging catcher is very good.
2/13/2010 11:38 PM
PC MODIFIES THE PITCHES AND PITCH SELECTION - this can be found in so many words from the devs themselves. At least the modify pitches part.

It won't make your pitchers more or less wild.

It won't chage their velocity.

It won't change the GB/FB ratio.

It doesn't change the vs L or R

If Im wrong someone show me where. I know for sure I saw that it modifies pitches and that it was a quote from the devs.
2/14/2010 12:06 AM
Not trying to argue but I was interested in this subject at one time and the point of this thread was for him to get an answer.

In short your PC catcher will lower your ERA but the cost is offense. Obviously you want one that can do both. That 72 guy sounds perfect. What is his glove AS AA? and how bad of a hitter is the other guy?
2/14/2010 12:11 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By jsturgis5866 on 2/13/2010PC probably is overrated, at least generally. It was the rating du jour for a while, but I suspect the best answer is, "it depends." In a hitters park or with so-so pitchers, high PC would be a big help... but if you have good pitchers and a neutral or pitcher-friendly park, you can easily get away with something in the 50s, even 40s, sometimes lower
This here about sums it up really.
2/14/2010 12:21 AM
The 72 PC guy has a 73 AS and a 63 AA. His batting #s are
8682498294
2/14/2010 2:38 AM
I just did a similar comparison with my team. I have been splitting time pretty evenly between 2 catchers for the last 3 seasons with the same pitching staff and defense. Catcher #1 (94 PC) has an ERA of 3.69 over 2186 innings. Catcher #2 (70 PC) has an ERA of 3.85 over 2132 innings. TIFWIW.
2/14/2010 3:09 AM
So many things to go into though. Are the catchers getting time split with your best starters? Is one catcher going against easier or tougher offense more often?

More goes into it than just splitting games.
2/14/2010 4:33 AM
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