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kujayhawk
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Both my dumb questions are about the same player.

1. I'm not surprised at the results and not *necessarily* saying this is messed up. He came to campus with a WE of 7. He started in 100 of 121 total games over four years. By being a 3.3 year starter, his WE went up by a total of 11 points over four seasons. Does that make sense? And I'm asking more in how you'd want to see the WE develop. Like I said I wasn't surprised at the results since it is so hard to get WE to develop from single digits. I was sort of expecting it would end at 18 but I'm not sure that's how things should be.

2. WE has zero to do with offense, correct? Despite the WE he came to campus knowing my offense and with a redshirt season entered his junior campaign with an IQ of A- in my offense. For a D2 player he has above average ratings in athleticism, speed, and low post. On my team, he's the best. But his FG% was absolutely terrible and while I know it's hard to come to conclusions in a sample size of just one season, this guy was terrible for three years running. Even that is a pretty bad sample size too but I find it kind of weird that my best post player in terms of rankings couldn't break 45% from the field three years running. And I can't imagine WE has anything to do with why he is bad but figured I'd ask since I'm grasping at straws to figure out what I did wrong.
2/19/2010 10:44 AM
dalter
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Kujay, there are no dumb questions, only dumb players.

1. My first thought was that we should improve more significantly for a guy like that. However, when thinking about it a little more, I'm not so sure. A 7 we guy is basically a completely unmotivated lazy ***, and for many (most, imho) of those guys are simply going to be lazy and unmotivated forever.

The one caveat I'd offer is that I think it would be great and make a lot of sense for we to improve differently for different players. The current linear progression is a remnant of the pre-potential days, and not only don't I think it makes sense in the potential era, I don't think it makes sense even on its face.

Some guys -- whether it's a response to starting, PT, different environment, increased maturity, whatever -- will have a switch flip and really start to get together, and others will stay pretty steady as far as their motivation goes. And I think we improvement should reflect that.

2. And no, we doesn't impact on-court performance. There are tons of high we guys who underacheive as well.
2/19/2010 10:53 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 2/19/2010
Kujay, there are no dumb questions, only dumb players.

1. My first thought was that we should improve more significantly for a guy like that. However, when thinking about it a little more, I'm not so sure. A 7 we guy is basically a completely unmotivated lazy ***, and for many (most, imho) of those guys are simply going to be lazy and unmotivated forever.

The one caveat I'd offer is that I think it would be great and make a lot of sense for we to improve differently for different players. The current linear progression is a remnant of the pre-potential days, and not only don't I think it makes sense in the potential era, I don't think it makes sense even on its face.

Some guys -- whether it's a response to starting, PT, different environment, increased maturity, whatever -- will have a switch flip and really start to get together, and others will stay pretty steady as far as their motivation goes. And I think we improvement should reflect that.

2. And no, we doesn't impact on-court performance. There are tons of high we guys who underacheive as well.



I agree with this, BUT some players also get lazy for no apparent reason too.

I guess what I'm getting at is, if we're gonna play the real life card and have some of the lazy ***** suddenly develop a strong work ethic, wouldn't the real life card also say that some average work ethic type players just stop caring as much and suffer significant work ethic drops. Not saying it SHOULD happen in HD, only that it's a two way street.
2/19/2010 10:58 AM
dalter
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I don't view it so much as the real life card as much as the common sense card/continuity card.

We have a system where players now improve at very different rates. WE is a remnant of the old system.

Totally appreciate your point, and on a real-life basis, of course you're right. But I think one of the nice things about HD is that WIS has the ability to pick-and-choose which aspects of real life they'd like to adapt to HD and hold a real positive purpose for the game and which don't. And my personal opinion would be that the we regression (other than guys buried on the bench or not living up to promises) would bring more negative than positive.
2/19/2010 11:04 AM
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