Let me say first that this is not a knock against any specific owner...just frustrated. If someone is planning on entering a progressive, please consider it a several year project. Seems to be getting alot more common to join a progressive and only play a season or two. Just frustrating when you put in so many hours organizing these leagues, only to have guys continually drop out....and usually with poor teams. Sorry...but I have yet to drop out of any progressive that I have been in...good team or bad.

Just had to get that off my chest.

Quote: Originally Posted By habsfan1 on 2/22/2010
Let me say first that this is not a knock against any specific owner...just frustrated. If someone is planning on entering a progressive, please consider it a several year project. Seems to be getting alot more common to join a progressive and only play a season or two. Just frustrating when you put in so many hours organizing these leagues, only to have guys continually drop out....and usually with poor teams. Sorry...but I have yet to drop out of any progressive that I have been in...good team or bad.

Just had to get that off my chest.

...and to add, what ends up happening is that one of about 3 or 4 of us take over these teams and run two teams to keep leagues afloat. Afterwards, you see these same guys join new progressives / leagues with little remorse.

I agree completely to what your saying habs there are 2 or 3 owners that seem to be willing to take over teams firstly they dont know how to draft and when its time to rebuild there gone to the next prog to screw up another league and the team they leave behind sucks. Its a shame that because of these idiot owners some of the prog are going to die and that sucks being in over 12 live prog where I like to rebuild a team from the ground up when your not certain the league is going to survive

another one is draft completes and it takes guys over a week to put a team in without a reason why. Look I know sometimes gotta wait for some dinero but let commish know instead of everyone having to wait on those guys.

UGH...another drop out, 2 leagues for this one. ...draft over in this one and waiting on the last 2 owners. argh....

hey habs i want to apologize in public for this..if my life wasnt being so crazy right now id be in..i do feel bad about this..i never wanted it to be this way...

this is by no means upset at you either habs..i just am frustrated with my place and if i have to go into a hospital it would suck..

Quote: Originally Posted By staindman on 2/24/2010this is by no means upset at you either habs..i just am frustrated with my place and if i have to go into a hospital it would suck.

damn staind.

hope things work out for you. if you need a team here or there let me know..i dont have any extras but i can transfer you a team already in progress if you just want to play a league or whatever

Quote: Originally Posted By staindman on 2/24/2010this is by no means upset at you either habs..i just am frustrated with my place and if i have to go into a hospital it would suck.

yeah hope all goes well,there are more important things than WIS. You are always welcome in any of my leagues, thought it was a little weird you not getting your team in since you have always honored your team commitments. Take care hope to see you playing again real soon

Rob

No harm staind...that is why I am holding that one team for you. Just plainly frustrated with this whole progressive dropout stuff. It is getting old very quick when it all adds up together. Just to give an idea, how it adds up, past 3 weeks alone I have had to put in 3 additional teams just to keep some of these leagues afloat...money not well spent.

I do hope you get better as you have always honored your teams. Your 88 team is being held for you if you want it back next season.

This is not a knock against Staind.......But how about taking some action against guys who quit these progs only to go go enter another one . Most of these progs are run by a select few owners, and you do an amazing job. How about a BANNED list..if you quit a prog for whatever reason then you sit out for a few months...It seems that most times these owners bail when the team they have are about to go into a nosedive. I thought the idea of the prog was a long term comitment. I would rather see less leagues with owners banging on the door to get in them, then to have situations where owners are dropping out and right making filling the prog very difficult...



thanks

yep the few teams I have taken over were raped of talent but like you said its a long term thing. I believe you should at least do 4-5 years before quitting(i wouldnt anyway since Im used to losing) unless you are quitting the site entirely or have other issues that are more important.

thanks guys...and lee..i like your idea lol but for live progs its hard to attract players if we are going to be elite like that ;)

Quote: Originally posted by staindman on 2/24/2010thanks guys...and lee..i like your idea lol but for live progs its hard to attract players if we are going to be elite like that ;)

Thats why I would rather eliminate a few leagues...(NOBODY START ANYMORE PLEASE ) keep the good prog owners....

Quote: Originally posted by staindman on 2/24/2010thanks guys...and lee..i like your idea lol but for live progs its hard to attract players if we are going to be elite like that ;)

There's nothing elite about acting against someone who bails on a declining team in one league to take a team in another. Any worthwhile commish understands that life happens and sometimes people need to cut back. What is annoying, and what leeelci's idea would address, someone who drops a non-competitive team in League A and almost immediately signs up for a new team in League B.