DIVISION 1 QUESTIONS Topic

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Wow... well. Look at zhawks' sticky thread for starters. How to recruit? If you mean what are the differances, then there are alot and I'm not sure if there is a thread on it currently. It depends on your team needs, resources and demographics. It may be a tough row for your to hoe right off, and I say that not to be a dick, but just looking at your current HD resume tells me you haven't quit mastered recruiting at D2 yet.
5/19/2010 2:05 AM
Having a D prestige is a little better than having a D- prestige, so you have a break there it seems. There are really 2 things you can do I feel when you are at a low prestige school to help with recruiting, first you can look at 0-1 star guys and really use FSS to scout for high potential guys. Second I would look at guys close to signing times and even after signings start to recruit people who were maybe back-ups for bigger schools, but then were avaiable because the bigger school gets who they wanted.
5/19/2010 2:19 AM
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Posted by clayolson on 6/24/2010 2:01:00 AM (view original):
Doomey-  thanks for the killer advice.  Let me ask you some more...........how do you play 82 more seasons than I do, have a worse winning percentage, less conference championships per season, and have a right to tell me I haven't mastered anything.  You're right, I haven't, although after 107 seasons I will be better than you and I will guarantee you that much.  Maybe I will offer you some advice at that point- 2018- maybe you'll be out of mom's house
Wow, offend easily? 
6/24/2010 5:27 AM

I am guessing Doomey's DI NC does not mean much to you

at least 72 of his seasons are at DI (that right there is enough qualification).  at  DI - conference championships will be MUCH harder to get, as will winning percentage.  so keep that in mind. 

6/24/2010 10:01 AM
Yeah, D1 is just more competitive.  D prestige is kinda tough to start with, but not terrible.  My word of advice is to understand your local geography.  It is more important at D1 where battles are so common.  D prestige teams don't get good players at long distances unless no one else wants them, since any local C- team will be able to spend a little and kick you off.
6/24/2010 10:41 AM
Posted by glen87 on 6/24/2010 10:01:00 AM (view original):

I am guessing Doomey's DI NC does not mean much to you

at least 72 of his seasons are at DI (that right there is enough qualification).  at  DI - conference championships will be MUCH harder to get, as will winning percentage.  so keep that in mind. 

It is kind of funny that Clay's winning percentage is a "whopping" .004 percent better (which is made up of lower level teams versus Doomey's D-1 teams) and that he actually uses that as some sort of benchmark to determine who is a better coach.  Not too mention the Conference Championship/Total seasons ratio.  Uhh, whole lot easier to do it in D2/D3 than in mid to upper level D1 there bud.

6/24/2010 10:57 AM
Well, all of this may be true.  However, the guy did not ask if he should have moved up to DI from D-II.  He asked about recruiting in D-I ... and likely also wanted to know the differences between D-I and D-II.

I don't think he was looking to be told that he sucked at D-II recruiting, so it likely would not possibly be able to understand how to do it at D-I.

Why does everyone feel the need to degrade the original posters who ask for help?

Didn't your momma's not teach you "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything"?
6/24/2010 11:58 AM
DI recruiting is nothing like you have seen prior to DI (especially the higher up you get in DI).  If you are not repeatedly getting good DII classes, then DI will be touher.  At DI, you will rarely get a recruit without getting in a battle (good recruits, you can battle 2-3 other teams for).  Knowing when to stay in a battle and when to walk away is a key to DI recruiting.  Also, getting used to the process of recruiting at DI.  If you miss more than 1-2 cycles, you will be in trouble (unless you are a top prestige team).  You need to budget better, be prepared to take walk-ons, and look at cores instead of overall (at lower prestige teams)
6/24/2010 2:18 PM
Thanks for the helpful advice.  I appreciate everyone's comments.  I don't apologize for my comments to doomey as his advice began with, "........not to be a dick...."  I have found that when one qualifies a statement with that comment, to a stranger, he's a dick.
6/25/2010 2:32 AM
Here is another idiot question, but I am curious as to how you are able to look at my D2 recruiting?  Seriously, where is this found?
6/25/2010 2:36 AM
Clay, shoot me a sitemail with some specific questions and I'll see what I can do to help you.  That is, if my career record is good enough to meet your standards (just a joke, but I couldn't resist, ha ha)!!  Was serious about the sitemail though.
6/25/2010 2:37 AM
I'm a lazy coach so I find D1 recruiting easier in some ways. I've never tried for "drop down" recruits at any level (not because it's bad but I'm just lazy). D1 recruiting is more straight forward to me. It may (is) be more competitive but you know what you and others need and just go out and recruit. After a few cycles you find out the battles and adjust accordingly. With a little luck nobody jumps on one of your prospects at the last minute. If they do it's easy (usually) to figure out if it's a real serious attempt or somebody just finishing recruiting and dumping the last of their money on a long shot.

If your starting a D1 career at a lower rated school with prestige that's really really bad don't fret about taking lower rated players. Your school was probably previously coached by a sim or an incompetent. Even recruiting lower rated players you will be able to build a more respectable program that will get prestige up into the C's. At that point you can start recruiting for real... Common sense matters. Trying to recruit a 700 rated Center 1,080 miles away in Los Angeles with a C+ prestige when UCLA badly needs him, UCLA has 6 open scholarships, and UCLA prestige is an A, is probably not wise!

I've had good classes and lots of bad classes so don't rely too much on my ramblings. Heck, I just finished a recruiting period where I had a 10 man roster so took a shot at a 700+ ineligible where the opposing recruiter had some advantages but also was seeking 2 other guys. It took all my money ($55K+) and I still didn't sign him. But hey, if ever there was a time (roster wise) to try it was probably the time. Anyways, have fun!

 
6/25/2010 3:57 AM
I don't know why everyone acts like recruiting in D1 is some kind of black art that requires years of study.  If you are at a low prestige school, your most important parameters are maximum potential in the key areas, minimum distance away, and to keep pushing for higher ranked recruits every year.  Practice plans can also mitigate minor recruiting mistakes
6/27/2010 7:35 PM
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