Well, new to me because it happened almost by accident.

I had one opening on my Livingstone team this year and signed a PG. After signings, I tried to redshirt the lad, and he was not happy so I lifted the redshirt.

I held him out of the first exhibition game because I have had a number of players take the redshirt if they don't play in the exhibitions. Then a tried to RS him again and got the worse "want pancakes with those waffles?" response so I lifted the RS again.

Today after 3 regular season games, on my front page, I see that the RS option is still there. I realized that I had never put him back on the depth chart, and he also wasn't set to mop-up like I would normally do with a freshman who isn't going to play much. So three games in, he hasn't played a minute.

I offered the RS again this a.m and he was happy to take it saying, "Coach, based on this years team, I thought you may want to redshirt me. So I'm not surprised. I'd probably do the same if I was the coach!"

Had I set him to mop-up, he would have played in my first three games because there were a couple of blowouts. So it wasn't really a strategy on my part, just dumb luck that I forgot to re-set him on the depth chart, but it could be a strategy for someone else.

I'm enjoying the nut.

sincerely,

blind squirrel

This goes with the new engine. If a guy isn't on your depth chart, it doesn't matter what kind of fatigue you put him at...he's not going in the game. So basically we'll be able to redshirt anyone as long as we attempt it late enough in the season without the kid getting any minutes.

You said nut.

DAMNITTTTTTTTTT. Could have used this about a week ago. Live and learn i guess.

Hmmm, I've always used zhawk's strategy for redshirting, and it works 95% of the time... but this new strategy seems pretty much bulletproof, doesn't it? If a guy doesn't play in the first 3 (or 6, or 9) games, why wouldn't he take the RS?

I'd have to assume it's a loophole they'll fix though. Unless they think the benefits of strict adherence to the depth chart outweigh this?

No, this doesn't always work. I've had guys play the whole seasons without getting into the game once and I tried to redshirt him at least 40 times, and it never worked - multiple times. I've only had it work once or twice where on the 3rd-5th try that he took it after a couple games, but more times then not its not going to happen. This is an old trick that has failed most of us sometime before.

Quote: Originally Posted By udm_mike on 6/03/2010This goes with the new engine. If a guy isn't on your depth chart, it doesn't matter what kind of fatigue you put him at...he's not going in the game. So basically we'll be able to redshirt anyone as long as we attempt it late enough in the season without the kid getting any minutes.

You said nut

There have been plenty of guys who haven't played a minute in the first X number of games and still wouldn't take a RS. Great for him that it worked, but it's about as far from full-proof as you can get.

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They would in RL but only in HD if the code was there to factor that into the formula.

Unless we know it's there, all this is just guessing based on observations.

Quote: Originally posted by Lizak on 6/03/2010They would in RL but only in HD if the code was there to factor that into the formula.Unless we know it's there, all this is just guessing based on observations.

Isn't there a greater likelyhood of players accepting redshirts in season than in exhibition? Or is it just a keep trying and rolling the dice each new attempt type thing? This might not be a 100% thing, but if the likelyhood increases each game into the season then I can't see the odds working against you too often when there's 1 game to go.

Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 6/03/2010No, this doesn't always work. I've had guys play the whole seasons without getting into the game once and I tried to redshirt him at least 40 times, and it never worked - multiple times. I've only had it work once or twice where on the 3rd-5th try that he took it after a couple games, but more times then not its not going to happen. This is an old trick that has failed most of us sometime before.

I guess I missed this. How did you go a whole season without them getting a minute? Even guys I didn't have on the depth chart would see a minute or 2 in extreme blowouts. Heck, I've never had a walk on go a whole season without seeing the floor.

I don't know but my point was to not build in an assumption into the formula they use just because we know it works that way in real life.

Say there's a 2% chance a kid will take a RS and I never play him, and I try every day to get the RS. If, at the halfway point he accepts, is that because he saw the light and wised up or just the law of averages finally hit? Only Admin can tell you for sure.

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