I've gone 37 seasons without raising an eyebrow when prospects stop developing before they reached the levels I had hoped for, but this one has me stumped.

Vicente Romo is 21 YO in his 4th season in the MiLs, not repeating his current level (AAA with good coaching), has make up and patience in the 90s, is getting regular playing time and is hitting .342 with 38 HRs and an OPS 1.245 before the all star break. And last season he had solid development so its not like he's been tailing off and this is just a little less than last year, he's gone from 64 to 72 to 78 to staying at 78?

I sent in a ticket , and am expecting the standard "every player has their own schedule of development" ...etc. Very frustrating.

Ignore the overall, which was largely moved by DUR, and you'll see that he is still improving but he's just about done.


Contact 5, 3, 0.   He might add another point or two.
VL 6, 6, 2.  He's at 91 so I don't know how much more he can improve.
VR 3, 0, 0.  Done.
Eye 3, 2, 0.  Maybe 1 more point.
Glove 5, 6, 1.  I'd think he'd improve there but I don't know your FI.
AAcc 6, 6, 2.  Again, I think he'd still move a little but FI is unknown.

That's the learned skills.   Looks like the physical skills are down to a couple of points between seasons.  Probably just about done.

In summation, there's nothing odd about his development.

Yup, looks perfectly normal to me.

As an aside, I have noticed that the player development patterns have gotten a bit "lumpy" i.e. the curve isn't so predictable such that advanced scouting has no value.

I thought this guy was on his way to becoming a quality ML pitcher after improving his ctrl/splits by 6/5/5 and his GB/FB and P1 by 4 his second season.  Then in his 3rd year with a 73 PC and 67 BC, he only increased by 3/2/2/1/2 without any injuries whatsoever.  Now he's probably going to peak about 5 points short of what I expected in most major categories, which is too bad for me since I could have traded him for some good ML'ers prior to his S3.  But then again I might have known that he was almost done if I had invested in advance scouts, and I'm kinda glad because it was silly how predictable prospect development was before.  Note that I did not submit a ticket whining about my player not being better.

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Posted by deanod on 9/5/2010 3:24:00 PM (view original):
Yup, looks perfectly normal to me.

As an aside, I have noticed that the player development patterns have gotten a bit "lumpy" i.e. the curve isn't so predictable such that advanced scouting has no value.

I thought this guy was on his way to becoming a quality ML pitcher after improving his ctrl/splits by 6/5/5 and his GB/FB and P1 by 4 his second season.  Then in his 3rd year with a 73 PC and 67 BC, he only increased by 3/2/2/1/2 without any injuries whatsoever.  Now he's probably going to peak about 5 points short of what I expected in most major categories, which is too bad for me since I could have traded him for some good ML'ers prior to his S3.  But then again I might have known that he was almost done if I had invested in advance scouts, and I'm kinda glad because it was silly how predictable prospect development was before.  Note that I did not submit a ticket whining about my player not being better.

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He still looks like a decent big league pitcher.

I know he is, but I turned down trades for players that I would have rather had if I known he would top out here.  Adding 5 points of splits (and a few points to his pitches + control) would have made a big difference.  But the point is that it seems prospect development isn't as predictable as it used to be, and it's probably for the better.

Posted by deanod on 9/5/2010 4:34:00 PM (view original):
I know he is, but I turned down trades for players that I would have rather had if I known he would top out here.  Adding 5 points of splits (and a few points to his pitches + control) would have made a big difference.  But the point is that it seems prospect development isn't as predictable as it used to be, and it's probably for the better.

Some of it might be due to how much you put into ADV Scouting. If you are using ADV to save some $$ for other categories, as many more experienced owners sometimes do, then the projections aren't going to be all that accurate anyway. And how many guys actually ever reach the very top of their projections anyway.

What amazes me is that this guy is in AAA to start with. LOL I know all worlds are different but I have the best record in High Fives and I couldn't keep him in AAA. You must either be extremely patient or have one hellacious ML team.

he's not really that good- he'll be decent vs LHP, but a guy who's only worth starting 1/3 games isn't anything to write home about.