Game ends on a defensive foul Topic

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Last entry in play by play

"Armando Hernandez is hacked by Edward Washington - foul #5 on Edward Washington, team foul #6"

This shows at 0:00

So, our guy is fouled.  Their guy fouls out.  BUT, it isnt a shooting foul and they arent in the bonus so the game is over?


1/7/2011 8:14 AM
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Posted by Rails on 1/7/2011 9:32:00 AM (view original):
One thing I noticed is that more times than not, the number of 2nd half fouls are less than the # of first half fouls.  IRL it's the opposite and years ago a tweak was made to make fouls more in line with rl.  It appears to be happening even more so with press teams--the second half # of fouls are less than half #1 about 75% of the time from what I have observed. 
i bet stamina is to blame

mets, technically the game ended after an inbound pass and before a shot...there's just no pbp event for that
1/7/2011 11:26 AM
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I agree.  Hate it.  The video makes clear that it should have been an intentional/flagrant foul.....Hernandez, all time Terps scoring leader ends his career......

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1/7/2011 12:00 PM
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Posted by Rails on 1/7/2011 9:32:00 AM (view original):
One thing I noticed is that more times than not, the number of 2nd half fouls are less than the # of first half fouls.  IRL it's the opposite and years ago a tweak was made to make fouls more in line with rl.  It appears to be happening even more so with press teams--the second half # of fouls are less than half #1 about 75% of the time from what I have observed. 
Not seeing this with my teams.
1/7/2011 12:16 PM
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Posted by mullycj on 1/7/2011 12:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Rails on 1/7/2011 9:32:00 AM (view original):
One thing I noticed is that more times than not, the number of 2nd half fouls are less than the # of first half fouls.  IRL it's the opposite and years ago a tweak was made to make fouls more in line with rl.  It appears to be happening even more so with press teams--the second half # of fouls are less than half #1 about 75% of the time from what I have observed. 
Not seeing this with my teams.
Small sample size, but without knowing anything about team ratings or anything, I just looked at two random (and only two) of your random games and both times you had fewer fouls in half #2.  --  Lake State.  I'm not going to look at all of them , but you may want too.  My guess is that it's more than 50%.  RL a lot less.  Does anyone remember the tweak TK made a few years ago?   
1/7/2011 8:29 PM
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Yeah - at the time about 75%-80% of the fouls occured in the 2nd half and he toned it down to 60% to try and match real life.
1/7/2011 9:46 PM
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If you think that's weird, then check this out. I happened 7 days ago, take a look at the very last two play-by-play enteries concerning specific players. 

00:11   58-64 William Copeland is fouled in the backcourt by Brent Jones - foul #4 on Brent Jones, team foul #11
00:11   58-65 William Copeland makes the 1st free throw
00:11   58-65 William Copeland misses the 2nd free throw
00:11 Richard Call snags the defensive board 58-65  
00:05 Kenneth Port misses the 3pt jumper from straight away 58-65  
00:04 The offensive rebound goes to Brent Jones 58-65  
00:01 Kenneth Port knocks in the 3pt jumper from straight away 61-65  
  New Jersey Tech. is playing a quick shot offense (quick shot) and intentionally fouling (-2)   Philadelphia is playing a spread offense (hold ball) and a man to man (+1)
00:00   61-65 Kenneth Port runs out the clock

Here is the link to the 2nd half play-by-play:

http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/GameResults/playbyplay.aspx?gid=6519432&half=2

The only explanation I can think of is that the player from the other team stole the in-bounds pass and the clock expired.
1/8/2011 1:58 AM
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What is most troubling is that the player (Kenneth Port) is from the opposing team and he is listed on my teams side of the play-by-play. Even if my guess about what happened is correct, that event should still be listed on the other teams side. Or am I wrong?  

1/8/2011 2:01 AM
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when your player steals the ball it shows on the other side of the pbp doesn't it? (too lazy to go find out). If so, your hypothesis is probably correct.
1/8/2011 10:24 AM
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Mets, they had a foul to give and took it at a time that you wouldnt be able to have enough time to take a shot after inbounding it.   Its actually a really good play
1/8/2011 10:52 AM
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Posted by dacj501 on 1/8/2011 10:24:00 AM (view original):
when your player steals the ball it shows on the other side of the pbp doesn't it? (too lazy to go find out). If so, your hypothesis is probably correct.
You're correct, but in this instance it doesn't say anything about the other team or that teams player (Kenneth Port) making any type of defensive play. So, despite lacking an explanation about how the non-inbounding team acquired possession of the ball, it list the subsequent action (running out the clock) in the wrong team's ledger. It goes without saying that it would disasterous if the engine had problems be able to account for each team's specific players.
1/8/2011 2:11 PM
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