Tell me about the Fastbreak offense.. Topic

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I have played HD for quite awhile but have never coached a fastbreak team  I am considering taking on the challenge now.  Would love to hear some thoughts on the success of the fastbreak offense currently in HD.  I know you can win with any offense but is the fastbreak dying, a little rejuvenated, harder, easier?? 

This is in DII
Fullcourt press defense

What I know:
Need speed
Need stamina
Need ath

What I don't know:
What does the offense do in the half court?
With such a deep concentration on speed, stamina and ATH is the offense still very effective with lower skills in PE and LP?
Is IQ more important in the fastbreak offense?
How important is BH and P?

Is there a forum somewhere that explains a lot of this?  What else is important to know?  Thanks in advance for the help.  if you are a coach who has had some success in the FB/FCP I would love to sitemail you.  

Thanks


2/12/2011 3:56 PM
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Wow, after looking through all of the B prestige or better teams in DII Smith World, there is only 1 team that I found that is running a fastbreak offense.  That team has been mediocre for many years.  That combined with the lack of responses here on the forums tells me this is a pretty non existent offense.  Would be curious to see if there are ANY successful DII teams running fastbreak.....  
2/12/2011 6:38 PM
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Posted by jjwarden on 2/12/2011 6:38:00 PM (view original):
Wow, after looking through all of the B prestige or better teams in DII Smith World, there is only 1 team that I found that is running a fastbreak offense.  That team has been mediocre for many years.  That combined with the lack of responses here on the forums tells me this is a pretty non existent offense.  Would be curious to see if there are ANY successful DII teams running fastbreak.....  
UC San Diego in Knight is an A+ that runs the fastbreak. 
2/12/2011 7:28 PM
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http://www.wisjournal.com/hd/TeamProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=13104
2/12/2011 7:28 PM
jjwarden
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Great link wsut.  Thanks for the reference. Helps me see what this coach values.  
2/12/2011 7:36 PM
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Check out my Princeton team....we have DII players but lead World Rupp in scoring. 
2/14/2011 2:10 PM (edited)
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Looked at all the offense and defenses in Iba after last season., to see which offenses, which defenses, and which combinations of offense and defense were doing well or poorly.  Few humans run FB offense--8 in D3,  8 in D2 and 4 in D1.  Small sample, admittedly, but the overall record of FB teams at each level lags the other offenses.   That is the reason so many canny D1 coaches have abandoned it.  Press is alive and well; FB is not.

2/14/2011 1:38 PM
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Posted by jjwarden on 2/12/2011 3:56:00 PM (view original):
I have played HD for quite awhile but have never coached a fastbreak team  I am considering taking on the challenge now.  Would love to hear some thoughts on the success of the fastbreak offense currently in HD.  I know you can win with any offense but is the fastbreak dying, a little rejuvenated, harder, easier?? 

This is in DII
Fullcourt press defense

What I know:
Need speed
Need stamina
Need ath

What I don't know:
What does the offense do in the half court?
With such a deep concentration on speed, stamina and ATH is the offense still very effective with lower skills in PE and LP?
Is IQ more important in the fastbreak offense?
How important is BH and P?

Is there a forum somewhere that explains a lot of this?  What else is important to know?  Thanks in advance for the help.  if you are a coach who has had some success in the FB/FCP I would love to sitemail you.  

Thanks


"What I don't know:
What does the offense do in the half court?"

Reverts to a motion offense in the half court if I am not mistaken.
2/14/2011 4:46 PM
mannytanner
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I just took over a fast break team
2/14/2011 11:40 PM
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I like guards and SF who can rebound a bit - I use FB/FCP together, and those are the worst formations for protecting rebounds, so I want 5 guys on the floor who can rebound at least a little. Likewise, I like a little BH/P with my bigs to cut down TOs, which FB teams tend to suffer from.
2/15/2011 12:20 AM
udm_mike
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I've found that it's better to have good team passing than it is to have a pg with high passing.
2/15/2011 11:07 AM
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I run FB in D3 Crum and I'm an A+ prestige.  But I haven't made it to the Final 4 in 31 seasons, so I wouldn't really call that success. 
2/15/2011 12:58 PM
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I have a FB D3 team that is ranked #1 right now after a final four run last year, so at least at D3 its viable.
2/15/2011 10:19 PM
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Posted by tedlukacs on 2/14/2011 1:38:00 PM (view original):

Looked at all the offense and defenses in Iba after last season., to see which offenses, which defenses, and which combinations of offense and defense were doing well or poorly.  Few humans run FB offense--8 in D3,  8 in D2 and 4 in D1.  Small sample, admittedly, but the overall record of FB teams at each level lags the other offenses.   That is the reason so many canny D1 coaches have abandoned it.  Press is alive and well; FB is not.

i played FB at the first school i ever coached at. i had no idea what i was doing, but i decided never to play FB again, because it made no sense to me.

then, years later, i played FB at a mid major in d1 tark. it was totally awesome. i realized that my fledgling d3 teams were actually pretty strong offensively - my 2nd recruiting class, when they were seniors, was competing for #1 in the nation. i thought FB held me back. but in fact, it was me having no idea what i was doing, my team was built like ****, and that made my teams always lose early in the NT. not FB. i wonder why i have 4 teams and 0 playing FB, when in fact, FB is the only offense i would even hesitate to consider before rejecting as being "the superior offense". its not any other offense, thats for sure, but maybe - maybe - its FB.

so its all about perspective. i would categorically reject any suggestion that FB is the inferior offense. FB is sweet. 
2/15/2011 10:40 PM
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I run the FB, but I havn't had much success with it (but I think that has much more to do with the coach and rough NT draws than the FB). I really just run it because I like to score a lot. I try to avoid bigs who will end up at below 30 speed, so, that limits the pool of available bigs. 
2/16/2011 4:31 PM
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