LP For Guards= good layups and finishing Topic

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If a guard has a bad low post rating (EX: 2) will it effect how good he will be able to drive and finish around the rim? If so should i change his 3pt on the player game plan to like +1 or +2 because he has a 83 perimeter?
3/19/2011 10:16 AM
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my answers= Yes.  +1
3/19/2011 10:24 AM
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IMO a guard with say 80+ BH and 80+ SPD and 1 LP and a poor PER could still be a solid inside scorer. 
3/19/2011 10:38 AM
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But does LP ratings have anything to do with finishing around the basket or driving (if the player is fast and has good BH) and making a lay up?
3/19/2011 10:47 AM
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It used to not, whether it does now or not, I'm not sure.  I think it plays a role, but is not the sole determining factor.  Low post used to just refer to low post moves, which were more important to big men.  Guards don't need "low post moves" to get to the basket and score.  They're more likely to use their speed/ball handling.  But I'm not sure. 
3/19/2011 11:20 AM
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Thanks sol phenom! Thats what i always thought that it determined on SPD and BH but i didnt know for sure and I thought maybe i was looking at it wrong so that is why i started this topic.


3/19/2011 11:28 AM
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LP DEFINITELY has an impact on guard's finishing around the rim.  As sol said, it used to not matter at all for guards.  Now it does.  That's not to say that guards can't be effective scorers inside without a bunch of low post, but they'll be much better if they do have it.
3/19/2011 12:44 PM
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If you have a guard with high low post, make sure he isn't on +1 or 0 3 point frequency so he has the tendency to drive the ball into the lane and use that low post. 
3/19/2011 1:48 PM
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I think in the new engine LP has a lot to do with all scoring from close in - some statements about that in dev chats, but thats a blend of experience and forum fact. 

This guy just finished his career at Kansas - mostly set at minus two to get the benefit of his inside game.  He was a terrific scorer AND drew lots of fouls which is an added benefit of a high LP guard ....especially if he has ATH and SPD

Name Yr. Pos. A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
Peter Posner Sr. PG 96 95 28 99 34 84 48 97 67 73 82 82 B+ 885
3/19/2011 2:33 PM (edited)
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Statistics
Yr. GP GS MIN FG% FG3% FT% OREB REB AST TO STL BLK PF PTS
44 31 31 24.1 .522 .188 .801 1.0 2.5 2.6 2.1 0.9 0.1 1.1 16.6
43 32 29 22.5 .578 .273 .727 0.9 2.1 1.8 2.0 1.3 0.0 1.2 13.1
42 30 30 19.6 .503 .400 .811 0.5 1.4 1.9 2.0 0.9 0.0 1.3 8.7
41 31 0 16.2 .478 .167 .833 0.4 1.4 1.5 0.6 0.7 0.0 1.5 2.4
Averages       .534 .271 .783 0.7 1.8 1.9 1.7 1.0 0.0 1.3 10.2


Yr. GP GS MIN FGM FGA FG3M FG3A FTM FTA OFF REB AST TO STL BLK PF PTS
44 31 31 746 181 347 3 16 149 186 30 79 81 64 29 3 35 514
43 32 29 720 152 263 3 11 112 154 28 66 58 64 43 1 37 419
42 30 30 588 78 155 6 15 99 122 15 42 56 61 27 0 40 261
41 31 0 501 22 46 1 6 30 36 12 42 45 19 22 0 46 75
Totals 124 90 2555 433 811 13 48 390 498 85 229 240 208 121 4 158 1269
3/19/2011 2:31 PM
fd343ny
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Check those FTAs - he had high but not overwhelming distribution - he drove the lane and drew tons of fouls

3/19/2011 2:34 PM (edited)
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Posted by fd343ny on 3/19/2011 2:33:00 PM (view original):
I think in the new engine LP has a lot to do with all scoring from close in - some statements about that in dev chats, but thats a blend of experience and forum fact. 

This guy just finished his career at Kansas - mostly set at minus two to get the benefit of his inside game.  He was a terrific scorer AND drew lots of fouls which is an added benefit of a high LP guard ....especially if he has ATH and SPD

Name Yr. Pos. A SPD REB DE BLK LP PE BH P WE ST DU FT TOT
Peter Posner Sr. PG 96 95 28 99 34 84 48 97 67 73 82 82 B+ 885
Wow, that's my kind of slasher. Great player. The ball handling and low post make him an incredible scorer. I think BH is really underrated by a lot of coaches when it comes to scoring guards. I had a similar player at Alcorn State in Phelan a few years back (not as good, 85 ath, 85 speed, 90 bh and 53 LP) and he shot amazing from the field even with a perim rating of 65.  The play by plays were awesome. Leonard John with the fadeaway. Leonard John with the finger roll. Leonard John with the floater. Leonard John slams it home. Still my favorite player I've ever recruited. 

Here's his player card


http://img638.imageshack.us/i/ljohn.png/ (stats)

http://img69.imageshack.us/i/ljohn2.png/ (ratings)

3/19/2011 6:02 PM (edited)
LP For Guards= good layups and finishing Topic
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