Arb: How do I know how many times? Topic

moethedog
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How do I know how many times a guy has been arbed?  (if I've forgotten)
6/2/2011 1:50 PM
hbdgirl
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3 ML years would be his first one
6/2/2011 1:54 PM
moethedog
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So has this guy LonnyMartin been arbed once or twice?
6/2/2011 1:56 PM
hbdgirl
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Based on his salaries, it looks to me he's been arbed twice. I think it has to do with the fact he has accumulated his 3 years service time over many seasons and has been up and down. I'd wait for somebody who knows better than me to confirm though 

6/2/2011 2:00 PM
deathinahole
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Transactions on his player card.

"Arbitration Signing". He has two
6/2/2011 2:02 PM
hbdgirl
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I said wait for someone who knows better .... Deathinthehole doesn't count ;)
6/2/2011 2:04 PM
moethedog
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On his player card is has "Arb Signing" three times.....Season 18, 19, 20.  So now I'm really confused.
6/2/2011 2:07 PM
deathinahole
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Oh yea, crap, missed the red one. 3 times. Correct.
6/2/2011 2:14 PM
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It should only matter how many times they have been arbed for someone who you would actually want to sign to a long term deal. As Lonny Martin should not fit that bill, it makes no difference.
The basic guideline for players who do matter would be:
ML Service Years = 3 means that it is the first arb year
ML Service Years = 4 would be the 2nd arb year
ML Service Years = 5 is the 3rd and final arb year and anyone you care about retaining should be given a long term deal in the preseason rather than going to arb.
6/2/2011 2:15 PM
deathinahole
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Don't think he asked that.
6/2/2011 2:25 PM
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The answer to your question is 3, based on his transaction history (2 done by a user, 1 done by simmy, noted in red text).

If they have between 3 and 6 years of Major League service, they can go to arbitration.

Of course you have option years, 6-year minor league free agency, and the Rule 5 draft to limit how much you can screw with them before you lose them.

So Martin has 3 years of ML service time, but he's also out of options.  So if you leave him in the minors off the 40-man, he becomes a minor league free agent.  If you call him up, he would have to clear waivers before being sent back down.
6/2/2011 3:04 PM
moethedog
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I just want to sign him to a one year contract.  Doable?
6/2/2011 3:10 PM
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Transaction Type: All
Season Date Franchise Transaction
20 5/18/2011 1:20 PM Sicilians Placed On Waiver Wire
20 5/18/2011 1:20 PM Sicilians Designated for Assignment
20 4/19/2011 9:52 AM Sicilians Added to 40-Man Roster
20 4/19/2011 3:15 AM Sicilians Claimed off Waivers
20 4/17/2011 12:04 PM Mad Dogs Placed On Waiver Wire
20 4/16/2011 11:09 PM Mad Dogs Arbitration Signing
19 3/4/2011 11:54 AM Mad Dogs Placed On Waiver Wire
19 1/10/2011 7:28 PM Mad Dogs Arbitration Signing
18 12/10/2010 10:14 AM Mad Dogs Added to 40-Man Roster
18 10/14/2010 11:12 AM Mad Dogs Acquired via Trade
18 10/14/2010 11:12 AM North Stars Traded to MAD
18 10/8/2010 2:29 PM North Stars Arbitration Signing
17 8/28/2010 5:58 PM North Stars Placed On Waiver Wire
17 7/1/2010 9:40 AM North Stars Contract Renewal
16 6/3/2010 6:20 PM North Stars Placed On Waiver Wire
16 3/31/2010 9:41 AM North Stars Contract Renewal
15 12/23/2009 1:42 AM North Stars Contract Renewal
14 11/18/2009 6:58 PM North Stars Placed On Waiver Wire
14 10/6/2009 8:08 PM North Stars Added to 40-Man Roster
14 9/19/2009 5:44 AM North Stars Contract Renewal
13 6/20/2009 5:46 AM North Stars Contract Renewal
12 3/21/2009 9:53 PM North Stars Contract Renewal
11 1/11/2009 3:07 PM North Stars International Free-Agent
6/2/2011 3:18 PM
iain
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Posted by moethedog on 6/2/2011 3:10:00 PM (view original):
I just want to sign him to a one year contract.  Doable?

You can arbitrate with him because he has less than 6 years ML exp.

There is no limit to arbitrations.

6/2/2011 3:19 PM
mhulshult
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^^^^^^^
what he said
6/2/2011 3:25 PM
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