88-89 ZPL Draft Board Topic

EASTERN CONFERENCE


Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
Buffalo Braves 77-5 0.939 - 9-1 W4 all3
Miami Heat 62-20 0.756 15 7-3 L2 MVG99
New York Knicks 45-37 0.549 32 5-5 W1 eleibowitz
Washington Bullets 45-37 0.549 32 4-6 W2 cullen2k1
Boston Celtics 37-45 0.451 40 4-6 L1 chris_snid
Philadelphia 76ers 16-66 0.195 61 1-9 L5 calcutta
 

Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
Milwuakee Bucks 57-25 0.695 - 7-3 W2 sappy
Indiana Pacers 47-35 0.573 10 8-2 W7 wetz64
Cleveland Cavaliers 47-35 0.573 10 7-3 L1 mark102857
Toronto Raptors 31-51 0.378 26 4-6 W1 shaggyno9
Memphis Grizzlies 30-52 0.366 27 2-8 L8 cea8010
Chicago Bulls 26-56 0.317 31 2-8 L2 deathproof
 
WESTERN CONFERENCE


Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
Kansas City Kings 69-13 0.841 - 9-1 W7 hoopsrus
Utah JAZZ 58-24 0.707 11 9-1 W2 ff09
St. Louis Hawks 35-47 0.427 34 5-5 W1 zizzo24
Dallas Mavericks 30-52 0.366 39 3-7 L1 ncih
Oklahoma City Thunder 23-59 0.280 46 3-7 L3 cjok1051
San Antonio Spurs 22-60 0.268 47 1-9 L2 katernberg
 

Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
Los Angeles Lakers 66-16 0.805 - 7-3 L1 zizzo24  
Seattle Supersonics 57-25 0.695 9 8-2 W1 slymonium
Portland Trail Blazers 42-40 0.512 24 6-4 W2 tracyr
Golden State Warriors 22-60 0.268 44 4-6 W1 dasfile4776
Denver Nuggets 20-62 0.244 46 3-7 L2 oram13
Phoenix Suns 20-62 0.244 46 2-8 L1 cdew8

TIEBREAKERS
Denver won season series 6-2 vs Phoenix
San Antonio won season series 3-0 vs Golden State
Memphis tied season series 1-1 vs Dallas (+6 point differential)
Seattle won season series 2-0 vs Milwaukee

SITEMAIL LIST
calcutta; eleibowitz; chris_snid; cullen2k1; MVG99; all3; deathproof; shaggyno9; wetz64; mark102857; cea8010; sappy; ncih; katernberg; zizzo24; hoopsrus; ff09; cjok1051; oram13; tracyr; cdew8; dasfile4776; slymonium; shooter83211
6/21/2011 10:01 PM (edited)
DRAFT RULES & INFO
 
- All times listed are Eastern Standard Time.
 
- Do NOT pick before you're time slot unless ALL picks before you have already been made.
 
- If you will not be available during your time slot send a proxy pick to the person(s) selecting after you.  I AM USUALLY AVAILABLE TO POST PROXIES. 
 
- Trades are always welcome, however are subject to review by the commissioner to ensure fairness to both parties and the league as a whole. 
 
- If you make an uneven trade (2 for 1, 3 for 2 etc.) keep in mind the team that gains a player will essentially lose a draft pick.  Do NOT make an uneven trade if it will cause your roster to go over the maximum allowed active player total of 12.  
 
Please post any trades in this forum so that all owners can see them.  
 
Trades involving draft picks can only include the current draft season and the following draft year (88-89 & 89-90 for this season).
 
*********************** EXTREMELY IMPORTANT**********************
ALL TRADES MUST BE FAIR TO BOTH PARTIES AND STAND ON THEIR OWN MERIT i.e. RENT-A-PLAYER TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED 
 
YOUR KEEPER ROSTER WILL BE FROZEN ONCE THE FIRST SELECTION IS MADE. 
 
- YOU MUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE MADE A CHANGE TO YOUR KEEPER LIST AFTER YOU POSTED.  In addition, you cannot change your draft needs unless it is done via a trade.  You should not be able to hold onto players, thus keeping them from being on the "available players" list, then dropping them when someone on the draft board is to your liking.  You can however drop any player(s) that have been on your roster for 1 entire season for any undrafted player(s) once the draft is completed.  You cannot dump players if you are under 19,000 total team minutes unless you are adding minutes.
 
- Some teams don't need their 1st or 2nd round picks because their rosters are full.  However, the draft chocies are still valuable commodities that may be traded for next season's draft picks or players, etc.  For that reason, picks will not be deleted from the draft schedule - even if no one uses them.  That way, if there is a last minute trade made involving those picks, no one is able to pass them until their draft windows expire.  Once the draft window expires and your roster is full that pick no longer can be used.
 
The lottery selection and draft dates and time
Again we will use the New York lottery system. It's basically a keno draw where 20 random numbers are chosen between 1-80. There are 351 draws - every four minutes starting at Midnight and ending at 11:56 PM. We will select one days worth of drawings.  Each team will be assigned a certain amount of drawings (time specific). The number of drawings each team will receieve is closely based on the actual NBA lottery percentages circa 1996 (details can be found in the draft lottery times) based on each teams respective 87-88 regular season record. Then once ALL the NY lottery selections have been made I'll add up each set of twenty numbers and the team with lowest combined total wins the 1st draft spot and so on. In the event of a tie I will compare each set of numbers starting with the lowest number in each selected set until one team wins. For example if two teams have a total of 621 and one set of the lowest numbers is (1, 2, 4, 7, 12 etc.) and another group has (1, 2, 3, 8, 14 etc.) the 1's cancel out, the 2's cancel out, and the 3 is lower than 4 so the 1, 2, 3, 8, 14 etc. set of numbers wins. I'm sure this sounds confusing but it's actually pretty simple.   Again the advantage to using this system is we get the lottery selection process done in one day - speeding up the draft and giving owners more time to make trades and analyze the players in draft - plus there is no dispute like there could be using something like random.org.

Once the lottery selections have been determined that owner may pick at any time and so on without skipping other owners.
 
Draft times will be posted below.  There will not be any time slots for the lottery picks - unless we are not making any progress.  I will assign draft days and times and sitemail everyone with at least 48 hours notice - probably closer to a week.  Most time slots will be one hour in time for all 1st and 2nd round selections.  I will post the league number sometime during the draft.

************************THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT*************************
PLEASE SITEMAIL THE NEXT TWO OWNERS SELECTING AFTER YOU once you have made your selection so we can keep the draft running and hopefully avoid any skips.  

After ALL teams have completed their draft you may drop any player(s) that have been on your roster for 1 entire season for any undrafted player(s) once the draft is completed. It will be first come - first serve for these undrafted players AKA free agents. You must post who your taking and dropping in the draft forum.

The reasoning is we don't want an owner drafting a player, then cutting him after the draft in exchange for another player as it prevents that player from potentially be drafting and kept by another owner. Basically you drafted the player for a reason so use him. There's only been a few players that have been acquired in this way. We don't anticipate any problems with this as the undrafted players went undrafted for a reason.

LEAGUE RULES

- If you have a shortage of RL minutes at a given position you may use the eternal players from the 50's/60's that is/are designated to play that position ONLY. 

I hope this all makes sense.  If you have any questions, concerns, comments let me know.

Thanks everybody!

Good luck and happy drafting.

- Z
6/21/2011 9:45 PM (edited)
THE DRAFT LOTTERY WILL BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY JUNE 22ND
Lottery Numbers - The percentages are closey based on the NBA percentages from the actual 1996 draft lottery.
 
Here's the number of drawings & times each spot in the lottery will receive:

#1 Philadelphia (calcutta)..............87/351 = 24.8% (18:12 - 23:56)
#2 Phoenix (cdew8).......................70/351 = 19.9% (13:32 - 18:08)
#3 Denver (oram13)......................55/351 = 15.7% (09:52 - 13:28)
#4 Golden State (dasfile4776)......43/351 = 12.3% (07:00 - 09:48)
#5 San Antonio (katernberg).........32/351 = 9.1% (04:52 - 06:56)
#6 Oklahoma City (cjok1051).......23/351 = 6.6% (02:44 - 04:48)
#7 Chicago (deathproof)................16/351 = 4.6% (01:40 - 02:40)
#8 Dallas (ncih)..............................10/351 = 2.9% (01:00 - 01:36)
#9 Memphis (cea8010)...................6/351 = 1.7% (00:36 - 00:56)
#10 Toronto (shaggyno9)...............4/351 = 1.1% (00:20 - 00:32)
#11 Boston (chris_snid)..................3/351 = 0.9% (00:08 - 00:16)
#12 Washington (cullen2k1).........2/351 = 0.6% (00:00 - 00:04)
6/21/2011 10:06 PM (edited)
TRADES EFFECTING 88-89 PICKS
OKLAHOMA CITY OWNS BOSTON'S 1ST ROUND PICK
BUFFALO OWNS BOSTON'S 2ND ROUND PICK
TORONTO OWNS KANSAS CITY'S 1ST ROUND PICK
TORONTO OWNS PHOENIX'S 2ND ROUND PICK
TORONTO OWNS MEMPHIS' 2ND ROUND PICK
NEW YORK OWNS PHOENIX'S 1ST ROUND PICK
NEW YORK OWNS BUFFALO'S 1ST ROUND PICK

TRADES EFFECTING 89-90 PICKS
NEW YORK OWNS PHOENIX'S 1ST ROUND PICK
OKLAHOMA CITY OWNS MEMPHIS' 1ST ROUND PICK

NEW TRADE DETAILS
BUFFALO ACQUIRES SG MIKE MCGEE
NEW YORK ACQUIRES C KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR

PHOENIX ACQUIRES PG DENNIS JOHNSON & SF JOHN WILLIAMS
TORONTO ACQUIRES '88 1ST ROUND PICK (KC) & '88 2ND ROUND PICK (PHX)

MEMPHIS ACQUIRES C JOE BARRY CARROLL
TORONTO ACQUIRES '88 2ND ROUND PICK

PHOENIX ACQUIRES SG ROLANDO BLACKMAN & PF KEVIN MCHALE
NEW YORK ACQUIRES PG JIM PAXSON, '88 1ST ROUND PICK (PHX), '89 1ST ROUND PICK (PHX)

OKLAHOMA CITY ACQUIRES PF DANNY MANNING, PG MARK PRICE, '89 1ST ROUND PICK (MEM)
MEMPHIS ACQUIRES PG TERRY PORTER & C ROBERT PARISH

BUFFALO ACQUIRES PG BRAD DAVIS
NEW YORK ACQUIRES '88 1ST ROUND PICK (BUF)
6/28/2011 8:48 PM (edited)
AVAILABLE PLAYERS

PG    Alford, Steve - Dallas #46
PG    Anderson, Michael - Kansas City #43
PG    Brooks, Scott - Dallas #31
PG    Grant, Gary - New York #24
PG    Henderson, Gerald - Boston #48
PG    Hughes, Eddie - Seattle #58
PG    Johnson, Avery - Oklahoma City #6
PG    Les, Jim - Utah #42
PG    Neal, Craig
PG    Rivers, David
PG    Shaw, Brian - Seattle #19
PG    Stephens, Everett
PG    Steppe, Brooke
PG    Strickland, Rod - Golden State #5
PG    Taylor, Anthony
PG    Wheeler, Clinton
PG    Wiley, Morlon
PG    Williams, Micheal - Los Angeles #22

SG    Berry, Ricky - Buffalo #44
SG    Bowie, Anthony - Golden State #28
SG    Bradley, Dudley
SG    Chapman, Rex - Milwaukee #18
SG    Cook, Darwin - Seattle #52
SG    Del Negro, Vinny - Indiana #17
SG    Eackles, Ledell - Toronto #26
SG    Edwards, Kevin - Cleveland #16
SG    Farmer, Jim
SG    Gaines, Corey
SG    Garrick, Tom - Washington #35
SG    Grayer, Jeff - Toronto #32
SG    Hawkins, Hersey - New York #2
SG    Leavell, Allen - Portland #56
SG    Lewis, Ralph
SG    Lowe, Sidney - San Antonio #29
SG    Majerle, Dan - San Antonio #3
SG    Maxwell, Vernon - Oklahoma City #11
SG    Myers, Pete - Memphis #47
SG    Richmond, Mitch - Denver #1
SG    Starks, John - Toronto #10
SG    Upshaw, Kelvin - Boston #60
SG    Williams, Kevin
SG    Woodson, Mike - Chicago #30

SF    Anderson, Willie - St. Louis #13
SF    Brown, Tony
SF    Chievous, Derrick - Portland #37
SF    Davis, Charles
SF    Davis, Mark
SF    Ferrell, Duane - Denver #27
SF    Frederick, Anthony
SF    Gamble, Kevin - Toronto #23
SF    Gray, Sylvester - Toronto #33
SF    Jones, Shelton - Kansas City #59
SF    Keys, Randolph - Utah #53
SF    King, Albert - Kansas City #54
SF    Mitchell, Todd
SF    Morris, Chris - Portland #14
SF    Robinson, Cliff
SF    Turner, Elston - Cleveland #38
SF    White, Eric

PF    Bryant, Mark - Philadelphia #25
PF    Grandison, Ronnie
PF    Grant, Harvey - New York #15
PF    Haley, Jack - Seattle #41
PF    Iavaroni, Marc
PF    Jones, Bill
PF    Lane, Jerome - Buffalo #34
PF    Long, Grant - Philadelphia #4
PF    Manning, Danny - Memphis #9
PF    Natt, Calvin
PF    Ortiz, Jose
PF    Roth, Scott
PF    Rowsom, Brian - Boston #55
PF    Smith, Charles D. - Washington #12
PF    Thompson, Bernard
PF    Thornton, Bob
PF    Tolbert, Ray
PF    Vincent, Jay - Cleveland #61

C    Blab, Uwe
C    Dreiling, Greg - Denver #45
C    Gray, Stuart - St. Louis #49
C    Lang, Andrew - Utah #20
C    Leckner, Eric - Indiana #39
C    McNamara, Mark
C    Mokeski, Paul - Portland #50
C    Nevitt, Chuck
C    Perry, Tim - Miami #21
C    Seikaly, Rony - Chicago #7
C    Shackleford, Charles - St. Louis #36
C    Shasky, John - Milwaukee #40
C    Smits, Rik - Dallas #8
C    Welp, Christian - Cleveland #51
C    Wilkins, Eddie Lee - Cleveland #57
7/12/2011 8:51 PM (edited)
1988 DRAFT BOARD

ROUND 1 - THURSDAY JUNE 30TH
1. Denver Nuggets - oram13 - SG Mitch Richmond
2. New York Knicks (via Phoenix) - eleibowitz - SG Hersey Hawkins
3. San Antonio Spurs - katernberg - SF Dan Majerle
4. Philadelphia 76ers - calcutta - PF Grant Long
5. Golden State Warriors - dasfile4776 - PG Rod Strickland
6. Oklahoma City Thunder - cjok1051 - PG Avery Johnson
7. Chicago Bulls - deathproof - C Rony Seikaly
8. Dallas Mavericks - ncih - C Rik Smits
9. Memphis Grizzlies - cea8010 - PF Danny Manning
10. Toronto Raptors - shaggyno9 - SG John Starks
11. Oklahoma City (via Boston) - cjok1051 - SG Vernon Maxwell

12. Washington Bullets - cullen2k1 - PF Charles D. Smith

ROUND 1 - FRIDAY JULY 1ST
13. St. Louis Hawks - zizzo24 - SF Willie Anderson
14. Portland Trail Blazers - tracyr - SF Chris Morris
15. New York Knicks - eleibowitz - PF Harvey Gr
ant
16. Cleveland Cavaliers - mark102857 - SG Kevin Edwards
17. Indiana Pacers - wetz64 - SG Vinny Del Negro

18. Milwaukee Bucks - sappy - SG Rex Chapman
19. Seattle Supersonics - slymonium - PG Brian Shaw
20. Utah Jazz - ff09 - C Andrew Lang
21. Miami Heat - MVG99 - C Tim Perry
22. Los Angeles Lakers - zizzo24 - PG Micheal Williams
23. Toronto Raptors (via Kansas City) - shaggyno9 - SF Kevin Gamble
24. New York Knicks (via Buffalo) - eleibowitz - PG Gary Grant


ROUND 2 - TUESDAY JULY 5TH
1. Philadelphia 76ers - calcutta - PF Mark Bryant
2. Toronto Raptors (via Phoenix) - shaggyno9 - SG Ledell Eackles
3. Denver Nuggets - oram13 - SF Duane Ferrell
4. Golden State Warriors - dasfile4776 - SG Anthony Bowie
5. San Antonio Spurs - katernberg - SG Sidney Lowe
6. Chicago Bulls - deathproof - SG Mike Woodson
7. Dallas Mavericks - ncih - PG Scott Brooks
8. Toronto Raptors (via Memphis) - shaggyno9 - SG Jeff Grayer
9. Toronto Raptors - shaggyno9 - SF Sylvester Gray
10. Buffalo Braves (via Boston) - all3 - PF Jerome Lane
11. Washington Bullets - cullen2k1 - 
SG Tom Garrick

ROUND 2 - WEDNESDAY JULY 6TH
12. St. Louis Hawks - zizzo24 - C Charles Shackleford
13. Portland Trail Blazers - tracyr - SF Derrick Chievous
14. Cleveland Cavaliers - mark102857 - SF Elston Turner
15. Indiana Pacers - wetz64 - C Eric Leckner
16. Milwaukee Bucks - sappy - C John Shasky
17. Seattle Supersonics - slymonium - PF Jack Haley
18. Utah Jazz - ff09 - PG Jim Les
19. Kansas City Kings - hoopsrus - PG Michael Anderson
20. Buffalo Braves - all3 - SG Ricky Berry


ROUND 3 - THURSDAY JULY 7TH
1. Denver Nuggets - oram13 - C Greg Dreiling
2. Dallas Mavericks - ncih - PG Steve Alford
3. Memphis Grizzlies - cea8010 - SG Pete Myers
4. Boston Celtics - chris_snid - PG Gerald Henderson
5. St. Louis Hawks - zizzo24 - C Stuart Gray
6. Portland Trail Blazers - tracyr - C Paul Mokeski
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - mark102857 - C Christian Welp
8. Seattle Supersonics - slymonium - 
SG Darwin Cook
9. Utah Jazz - ff09 - SF Randolph Keys
10. Kansas City Kings - hoopsrus - SF Albert King

ROUND 4 - FRIDAY JULY 8TH
1. Boston Celtics - chris_snid - PF Brian Rowsom
2. Portland Trail Blazers - tracyr - SG Allen Leavell
3. Cleveland Cavaliers - mark102857 - C Eddie Lee Wilkins
4. Seattle Supersonics - slymonium - PG Eddie Hughes
5. Kansas City Kings - hoopsrus - SF Shelton Jones

ROUND 5 - FRIDAY JULY 8TH
1. Boston Celtics - chris_snid - SG Kelvin Upshaw
2. Cleveland Cavaliers - mark102857 - PF Jay Vincent

7/12/2011 8:50 PM (edited)
SCRUBS
G - 67-68 ANDY ANDERSON (1992 MINUTES)
G - 67-68 HAL HALE (1794 MINUTES)
G/SF - 57-58 AL BIANCHI (1619 MINUTES)
SG/SF - 57-58 LOU TSIOROPOULOS (2072 MINUTES)
SF - 53-54 VINCE BORYLA (1734 MINUTES)
PF - 75-76 STEW JOHNSON (1693 MINUTES)
C - 52-53 NOBLE JORGENSEN (1565 MINUTES)
6/22/2011 9:43 PM (edited)
Not a stellar draft class by any means.
6/22/2011 11:41 AM
If someone needs an extra 2nd round pick this year Los Angeles' is available for a 2nd round pick next season.

Just copy and post this message in the forum and it's yours.
6/22/2011 9:21 PM
Hate to mess with your newly created Draft order, since it's so well done, but the Braves have finally been able to pull another deal.  They have traded their 1st round selection in this Draft to the Knicks in exchange for Brad Davis.  eleibowitz to confirm.
6/23/2011 10:06 AM
Posted by all3 on 6/23/2011 10:06:00 AM (view original):
Hate to mess with your newly created Draft order, since it's so well done, but the Braves have finally been able to pull another deal.  They have traded their 1st round selection in this Draft to the Knicks in exchange for Brad Davis.  eleibowitz to confirm.
Confimed
6/23/2011 10:50 AM
Anyone know the lottery results?
6/23/2011 11:32 AM
6/22/2011 11:40 571 Denver (oram13)
6/22/2011 15:20 614 Phoenix (cdew8)
6/22/2011 4:56 620 San Antonio (katernberg)
6/23/2011 11:34 AM
Posted by slymonium on 6/23/2011 11:34:00 AM (view original):
6/22/2011 11:40 571 Denver (oram13)
6/22/2011 15:20 614 Phoenix (cdew8)
6/22/2011 4:56 620 San Antonio (katernberg)
Sweet cdew traded me his pick, didnt want to get too low in this draft
6/23/2011 12:32 PM
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