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EASTERN CONFERENCE

 
Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
Buffalo Braves 67-15 0.817 - 9-1 L1 all3
Miami Heat 66-16 0.805 1 8-2 W3 MVG99
Charlotte Hornets 52-30 0.634 15 5-5 L1 robusk
Washington Bullets 45-37 0.549 22 5-5 W1 cullen2k1
New York Knicks 42-40 0.512 25 2-8 W1 eleibowitz
Philadelphia 76ers 9-73 0.110 58 1-9 L4 calcutta
 
Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
Memphis Grizzlies 63-19 0.768 - 9-1 W4 cea8010
Cleveland Cavaliers 45-37 0.549 18 5-5 W1 mark102857
Milwuakee Bucks 43-39 0.524 20 5-5 L1 sappy
Indiana Pacers 40-42 0.488 23 5-5 L1 wetz64
Chicago Bulls 21-61 0.256 42 3-7 L6 deathproof
Toronto Raptors 18-64 0.220 45 3-7 W1 shaggyno9
 
WESTERN CONFERENCE

 
Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
San Antonio Spurs 49-33 0.598 - 9-1 W5 katernberg
Kansas City Kings 49-33 0.598 - 6-4 W1 hoopsrus
St. Louis Hawks 48-34 0.585 1 6-4 L2 zizzo24  
Utah Jazz 38-44 0.463 11 4-6 L1 ff09
Dallas Mavericks 27-55 0.329 22 3-7 W2 ncih
Oklahoma City Thunder 15-67 0.183 34 2-8 L3 cjok1051
 
Team W-L PCT GB L10 STRK Owner  
Los Angeles Lakers 55-27 0.671 - 8-2 L1 zizzo24
Phoenix Suns 47-35 0.573 8 8-2 W4 cdew8
Golden State Warriors 45-37 0.549 10 6-4 W1 dasfile4776
Seattle Supersonics 44-38 0.537 11 4-6 W1 slymonium
Denver Nuggets 38-44 0.463 17 3-7 L1 oram13
Portland Trail Blazers 18-64 0.220 37 1-9 L8 tracyr

TIEBREAKERS
Toronto 1-1 vs Portland (+2 point differential)
Utah 3-0 vs Denver
San Antonio 6-2 vs Kansas City
Washington 2-1 vs Cleveland
Golden State 2-0 vs Cleveland
Washington 2-0 vs Golden State

SITEMAIL LIST
calcutta; eleibowitz; robusk; cullen2k1; MVG99; all3; deathproof; shaggyno9; wetz64; mark102857; cea8010; sappy; ncih; katernberg; zizzo24; hoopsrus; ff09; cjok1051; oram13; tracyr; cdew8; dasfile4776; logain;
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DRAFT RULES & INFO
 
- All times listed are Eastern Standard Time.
 
- Do NOT pick before you're time slot unless ALL picks before you have already been made.
 
- If you will not be available during your time slot send a proxy pick to the person(s) selecting after you.  I AM USUALLY AVAILABLE TO POST PROXIES. 
 
- Trades are always welcome, however are subject to review by the commissioner to ensure fairness to both parties and the league as a whole. 
 
- If you make an uneven trade (2 for 1, 3 for 2 etc.) keep in mind the team that gains a player will essentially lose a draft pick.  Do NOT make an uneven trade if it will cause your roster to go over the maximum allowed active player total of 12.  
 
- Please post any trades in this forum so that all owners can see them.  
 
- Trades involving draft picks can only include the current draft season and the following draft year (90-91 & 91-92 for this season).
 
*********************** EXTREMELY IMPORTANT**********************
ALL TRADES MUST BE FAIR TO BOTH PARTIES AND STAND ON THEIR OWN MERIT i.e. RENT-A-PLAYER TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED 
 
- YOUR KEEPER ROSTER WILL BE FROZEN ONCE THE FIRST SELECTION IS MADE. 
 
- YOU MUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE MADE A CHANGE TO YOUR KEEPER LIST AFTER YOU POSTED.  In addition, you cannot change your draft needs unless it is done via a trade.  You should not be able to hold onto players, thus keeping them from being on the "available players" list, then dropping them when someone on the draft board is to your liking.  You can however drop any player(s) that have been on your roster for 1 entire season for any undrafted player(s) once the draft is completed.  You cannot dump players if you are under 19,000 total team minutes unless you are adding minutes.
 
- Some teams don't need their 1st or 2nd round picks because their rosters are full.  However, the draft chocies are still valuable commodities that may be traded for next season's draft picks or players, etc.  For that reason, picks will not be deleted from the draft schedule - even if no one uses them.  That way, if there is a last minute trade made involving those picks, no one is able to pass them until their draft windows expire.  Once the draft window expires and your roster is full that pick no longer can be used.
 
- The lottery selection and draft dates and time
Again we will use the New York lottery system. It's basically a keno draw where 20 random numbers are chosen between 1-80. There are 351 draws - every four minutes starting at Midnight and ending at 11:56 PM. We will select one days worth of drawings.  Each team will be assigned a certain amount of drawings (time specific). The number of drawings each team will receieve is closely based on the actual NBA lottery percentages circa 1996 (details can be found in the draft lottery times) based on each teams respective 89-90 regular season record. Then once ALL the NY lottery selections have been made I'll add up each set of twenty numbers and the team with lowest combined total wins the 1st draft spot and so on. In the event of a tie I will compare each set of numbers starting with the lowest number in each selected set until one team wins. For example if two teams have a total of 621 and one set of the lowest numbers is (1, 2, 4, 7, 12 etc.) and another group has (1, 2, 3, 8, 14 etc.) the 1's cancel out, the 2's cancel out, and the 3 is lower than 4 so the 1, 2, 3, 8, 14 etc. set of numbers wins. I'm sure this sounds confusing but it's actually pretty simple.   Again the advantage to using this system is we get the lottery selection process done in one day - speeding up the draft and giving owners more time to make trades and analyze the players in draft - plus there is no dispute like there could be using something like random.org.

Once the lottery selections have been determined that owner may pick at any time and so on without skipping other owners.
 
Draft times will be posted below.  There will not be any time slots for the lottery picks - unless we are not making any progress.  I will assign draft days and times and sitemail everyone with at least 48 hours notice - probably closer to a week.  Most time slots will be one hour in time for all 1st and 2nd round selections.  I will post the league number sometime during the draft.

************************THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT*************************
PLEASE SITEMAIL THE NEXT TWO OWNERS SELECTING AFTER YOU once you have made your selection so we can keep the draft running and hopefully avoid any skips.  

- After ALL teams have completed their draft you may drop any player(s) that have been on your roster for 1 entire season for any undrafted player(s) once the draft is completed. It will be first come - first serve for these undrafted players AKA free agents. You must post who your taking and dropping in the draft forum.

The reasoning is we don't want an owner drafting a player, then cutting him after the draft in exchange for another player as it prevents that player from potentially be drafting and kept by another owner. Basically you drafted the player for a reason so use him. There's only been a few players that have been acquired in this way. We don't anticipate any problems with this as the undrafted players went undrafted for a reason.

LEAGUE RULES

- If you have a shortage of RL minutes at a given position you may use the eternal players from the 50's/60's that is/are designated to play that position ONLY. 

I hope this all makes sense.  If you have any questions, concerns, comments let me know.

Thanks everybody!

Good luck and happy drafting.

- Z
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THE DRAFT LOTTERY WILL BE HELD ON SUNDAY OCTOBER 23RD
Lottery Numbers - The percentages are closey based on the NBA percentages from the actual 1996 draft lottery.
 
Here's the number of drawings & times each spot in the lottery will receive:
#1 Philadelphia (calcutta)...............87/351 = 24.8% (18:12 - 23:56)
#2 Oklahoma City (cjok1051)........70/351 = 19.9% (13:32 - 18:08)
#3 Portland (tracyr)........................55/351 = 15.7% (09:52 - 13:28)
#4 Toronto (shaggyno9).................43/351 = 12.3% (07:00 - 09:48)
#5 Chicago (deathproof).................32/351 = 9.1% (04:52 - 06:56)
#6 Dallas (ncih)...............................23/351 = 6.6% (02:44 - 04:48)
#7 Denver (oram13).......................16/351 = 4.6% (01:40 - 02:40)
#8 Utah (ff09).................................10/351 = 2.9% (01:00 - 01:36)
#9 Indiana (wetz64).........................6/351 = 1.7% (00:36 - 00:56)
#10 New York (eleibowitz)..............4/351 = 1.1% (00:20 - 00:32)
#11 Milwaukee (sappy)....................3/351 = 0.9% (00:08 - 00:16)
#12 Seattle (logain)..........................2/351 = 0.6% (00:00 - 00:04)
10/22/2011 2:57 PM (edited)
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TRADES EFFECTING 90-91 PICKS
INDIANA OWNS BUFFALO'S 1ST ROUND PICK
OKLAHOMA CITY OWNS BUFFALO'S 2ND ROUND PICK
BUFFALO OWNS NEW YORK'S 1ST ROUND PICK
BUFFALO OWNS CHICAGO'S 1ST ROUND PICK
CHARLOTTE OWNS WASHINGTON'S 1ST ROUND PICK
CHARLOTTE OWNS SEATTLE'S 1ST ROUND PICK
CHARLOTTE OWNS SEATTLE'S 2ND ROUND PICK

TRADES EFFECTING 91-92 PICKS
CHICAGO OWNS BUFFALO'S 2ND ROUND PICK
BUFFALO OWNS CLEVELAND'S 1ST ROUND PICK

NEW TRADE DETAILS
NEW YORK ACQUIRES PG BRAD DAVIS, SG BYRON SCOTT, & PF RODNEY MCCRAY
BUFFALO ACQUIRES '90 1ST ROUND PICK (NY)

MEMPHIS ACQUIRES SG DANNY AINGE, PF KEVIN MCHALE, SG ROLANDO BLACKMAN & PF KURT RAMBIS
PHOENIX ACQUIRES SG REGGIE MILLER & C TREE ROLLINS

CHARLOTTE ACQUIRES '90 1ST ROUND PICK (WSH)
WASHINGTON ACQUIRES PG ISIAH THOMAS

CHARLOTTE ACQUIRES '90 1ST & 2ND ROUND PICKS (SEA)
SEATTLE ACQUIRES SF ORLANDO WOOLRIDGE & C MOSES MALONE

CHICAGO ACQUIRES SF LARRY BIRD, C MARK WEST, PF BRAD LOHAUS, & '91 2ND ROUND PICK (BUF)
BUFFALO ACQUIRES '90 1ST ROUND PICK (CHI)

BUFFALO ACQUIRES SG DELL CURRY & '91 1ST ROUND PICK (CLV)
CLEVELAND ACQUIRES PG DEREK HARPER
10/29/2011 10:45 AM (edited)
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AVAILABLE PLAYERS

PG    Abdul-Rauf, Mahmoud - Milwaukee #11
PG    Alford, Steve
PG    Brown, Dee - Charlotte #12
PG    Coles, Bimbo - Phoenix #16
PG    Colter, Steve
PG    Drew, Larry - San Antonio #43
PG    George, Tate
PG    Henderson, Gerald
PG    Henson, Steve - San Antonio #36
PG    Knight, Negele - Charlotte #48
PG    Mays, Travis - Miami #23
PG    Payton, Gary - Dallas #1
PG    Pritchard, Kevin
PG    Robinson, Rumeal - Oklahoma City #25
PG    Rudd, Delaney - Kansas City #35
PG    Turner, Andre - San Antonio #19
PG    Workman, Haywoode - Indiana #24

SG    Blanks, Lance
SG    Brown, Tony
SG    Calloway, Rick
SG    Dailey, Quintin
SG    Dunn, T.R.
SG    English, A.J. - Charlotte #31
SG    Farmer, Jim
SG    Gaines, Corey
SG    Garrick, Tom - St. Louis #34
SG    Gill, Kendall - Philadelphia #4
SG    Hansen, Bobby
SG    Irvin, Byron
SG    Jamerson, Dave
SG    Kimble, Bo
SG    Long, John
SG    Oliver, Brian
SG    Quinnett, Brian - Kansas City #43
SG    Robinson, Larry
SG    Scott, Dennis - Indiana #9
SG    Smith, Tony - Charlotte #45
SG    Sundvold, Jon
SG    Upshaw, Kelvin
SG    Wood, Leon

SF    Askins, Keith - Memphis #22
SF    Bennett, Winston
SF    Buechler, Jud - Indiana #30
SF    Burton, Willie - Toronto #27
SF    Ceballos, Cedric - Buffalo #10
SF    Coffey, Richard
SF    Elie, Mario - St. Louis #17
SF    Frederick, Anthony
SF    Glass, Gerald - Charlotte #46
SF    Higgins, Sean
SF    Keys, Randolph
SF    Lee, Kurk
SF    Liberty, Marcus - Charlotte #37
SF    Morton, John
SF    Paddio, Gerald
SF    Payne, Kenny
SF    Sanders, Mike
SF    Simmons, Lionel - Utah #8
SF    Toolson, Andy
SF    Winchester, Kenna
SF    Wittman, Randy

PF    Abdelnaby, Alaa - Dallas #29
PF    Alarie, Mark
PF    Bannister, Ken
PF    Bonner, Anthony - Charlotte #20
PF    Caldwell, Adrian
PF    Campbell, Elden - Chicago #2
PF    Coleman, Derrick - Portland #3
PF    Cook, Anthony - Cleveland #32
PF    Ferry, Danny - Charlotte #15
PF    Foster, Greg - Phoenix #33
PF    Hill, Tyrone - Toronto #6
PF    James, Henry
PF    Mills, Terry - Denver #7
PF    Murphy, Tod
PF    Mustaf, Jerrod - Memphis #39
PF    Nealy, Ed - Los Angeles #38
PF    Smith, Michael J.
PF    Vaught, Loy - Oklahoma City #5
PF    Williams, Jayson - Golden State #14
PF    Williams, Kenny - Chicago #28
PF    Williams, Scott - Los Angeles #21
PF    Wood, David - Portland #40

C    Bedford, William
C    Causwell, Duane - Kansas City #18
C    Feitl, Dave
C    Johnson, Steve
C    Kessler, Alec - Portland #26
C    Mokeski, Paul
C    Ogg, Alan
C    Sampson, Ralph
C    Scheffler, Steve
C    Schintzius, Dwayne
C    Shasky, John
C    Spencer, Felton - Cleveland #13
C    Wilkins, Eddie Lee - Dallas #41
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DRAFT BOARD

ROUND 1 - UNTIMED
1. Dallas Mavericks - ncih - PG Gary Payton
2. Buffalo Braves (via Chicago) - all3 - PF Elden Campbell
3. Portland Trail Blazers - tracyr - PF Derrick Coleman
4. Philadelphia 76ers - calcutta - SG Kendall Gill
5. Oklahoma City Thunder - cjok1051 - PF Loy Vaught
6. Toronto Raptors - shaggyno9 - PF Tyrone Hill
7. Denver Nuggets - oram13 - PF Terry Mills
8. Utah Jazz - ff09 - SF Lionel Simmons
9. Indiana Pacers - wetz64 - SG Dennis Scott
10. Buffalo Braves (via New York) - all3 - SF Cedric Ceballos
11. Milwaukee Bucks - sappy - PG Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
12. Charlotte Hornets (via Seattle) - robusk - PG Dee Brown

ROUND 1 - MONDAY OCTOBER 31ST
13. Cleveland Cavaliers - mark102857 - C Felton Spencer
14. Golden State Warriors - dasfile4776 - PF Jayson Williams
15. Charlotte Hornets (via Washington) - robusk - PF Danny Ferry
16. Phoenix Suns - cdew8 - PG Bimbo Coles
17. St. Louis Hawks - zizzo24 - SF Mario Elie
18. Kansas City Kings - hoopsrus - C Duane Causwell
19. San Antonio Spurs - katernberg - PG Andre Turner
20. Charlotte Hornets - robusk - PF Anthony Bonner
21. Los Angeles Lakers - zizzo24 - PF Scott Williams
22. Memphis Grizzlies - cea8010 - SF Keith Askins
23. Miami Heat - MVG99 - PG Travis Mays
24. Indiana Pacers (via Buffalo) - wetz64 - PG Haywoode Workman

ROUND 2 - TUESDAY NOVEMBER 1ST
1. Oklahoma City Thunder - cjok1051 - PG Rumeal Robinson
2. Portland Trail Blazers - tracyr - C Alec Kessler
3. Toronto Raptors - shaggyno9 - SF Willie Burton
4. Chicago Bulls - deathproof - PF Kenny Williams
5. Dallas Mavericks - ncih - PF Alaa Abdelnaby
6. Indiana Pacers - wetz64 - SF Jud Buechler
7. Charlotte Hornets (via Seattle) - robusk - SG A.J. English

ROUND 2 - WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 2ND
8. Cleveland Cavaliers - mark102857 - PF Anthony Cook
9. Phoenix Suns - cdew8 - PF Greg Foster
10. St. Louis Hawks - zizzo24 - SG Tom Garrick
11. Kansas City Kings - hoopsrus - PG Delaney Rudd
12. San Antonio Spurs - katernberg - PG Steve Henson
13. Charlotte Hornets - robusk - SF Marcus Liberty
14. Los Angeles Lakers - zizzo24 - PF Ed Nealy
15. Memphis Grizzlies - cea8010 - PF Jerrod Mustaf

ROUND 3 - THURSDAY NOVEMBER 3RD
1. Portland Trail Blazers - tracyr - PF David Wood
2. Dallas Mavericks - ncih - C Eddie Lee Wilkins
3. Kansas City Kings - hoopsrus - SG Brian Quinnett
4. San Antonio Spurs - katernberg - PG Larry Drew
5. Charlotte Hornets - robusk - SG Tony Smith

ROUND 4 - THURSDAY NOVEMBER 3RD
1. Charlotte Hornets - robusk - PG Negele Knight

ROUND 5 - THURSDAY NOVEMBER 3RD
1. Charlotte Hornets - robusk - SF Gerald Glass

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SCRUBS
G - 67-68 ANDY ANDERSON (1992 MINUTES)
G - 67-68 HAL HALE (1794 MINUTES)
G/SF - 57-58 AL BIANCHI (1619 MINUTES)
SG/SF - 57-58 LOU TSIOROPOULOS (2072 MINUTES)
SF - 53-54 VINCE BORYLA (1734 MINUTES)
PF - 75-76 STEW JOHNSON (1693 MINUTES)
C - 52-53 NOBLE JORGENSEN (1565 MINUTES)
10/22/2011 2:59 PM (edited)
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Lottery Numbers

1 - Dallas = 436 (I've never seen a drawing total under 500)
2 - Chicago = 574
3 - Portland = 577
10/24/2011 9:04 PM (edited)
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10/22/2011 1:14 PM
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Another trade that effects this season's picks:

10/7/2011 5:12 AM
 
 
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Posted by all3 on 10/6/2011 9:20:00 PM (view original):
The Braves have begun their disassembly for next season by trading Rodney McCray, Byron Scott, and Brad Davis to New York in exchange for their '90 first round selection. Eleibowitz to confirm.

Still tons of talent available at all positions.
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10/22/2011 5:25 PM
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Another trade that will affect the draft:
Charlotte sends Isiah Thomas to Washington for Washington's first round pick in this draft.

Still have Moses Malone, Kevin Duckworth and Orlando Woolridge to deal.
10/24/2011 10:18 AM
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Row Labels Count Seasons Min Season Max Season Sum Salary Avg Salary Avg MP/82 Avg PTS/82 Avg AST/82 Avg TRB/82 Avg Def
Kevin Duckworth 6 1990 1996 $15,263,047 $2,543,841 18.7 7.6 0.7 4.1 29
1990 1 1990 1990 $4,791,318 $4,791,318 30.6 15.6 1.1 6.5 28
1991 1 1991 1991 $3,824,986 $3,824,986 27.1 10.7 1.2 6.1 29
1992 1 1992 1992 $2,976,178 $2,976,178 21.5 8.9 0.9 4.7 32
1993 1 1993 1993 $2,087,233 $2,087,233 18.1 5.6 0.7 4.0 19
1994 1 1994 1994 $1,188,584 $1,188,584 10.0 3.5 0.2 2.4 32
1996 1 1996 1996 $394,748 $394,748 4.7 1.3 0.2 0.7 31
Orlando Woolridge 4 1990 1993 $14,287,050 $3,571,763 22.7 12.5 1.4 3.4 41
1990 1 1990 1990 $3,837,537 $3,837,537 22.2 16.2 1.5 4.4 32
1991 1 1991 1991 $4,129,285 $4,129,285 25.8 14.0 1.1 3.2 44
1992 1 1992 1992 $2,678,376 $2,678,376 19.0 8.5 1.4 2.3 40
1993 1 1993 1993 $3,641,852 $3,641,852 23.8 11.4 1.7 3.6 46
Moses Malone 3 1990 1993 $12,324,846 $4,108,282 20.5 9.9 0.8 6.7 70
1990 1 1990 1990 $4,669,998 $4,669,998 23.3 10.6 0.8 8.1 70
1991 1 1991 1991 $6,427,537 $6,427,537 30.6 15.6 1.1 9.1 70
1993 1 1993 1993 $1,227,311 $1,227,311 7.5 3.6 0.4 2.8 70
10/24/2011 10:20 AM
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Posted by robusk on 10/24/2011 10:18:00 AM (view original):
Another trade that will affect the draft:
Charlotte sends Isiah Thomas to Washington for Washington's first round pick in this draft.

Still have Moses Malone, Kevin Duckworth and Orlando Woolridge to deal.
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10/24/2011 10:43 AM
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I think the lottery turned out

1 dallas
2 chicago
3 portland

But will wait on zizzo to confirm my spreadsheeting!
10/24/2011 8:32 PM
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^ Yep looks right to me.
10/24/2011 9:02 PM
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