Give WS participants time to demote callups Topic

burnsy483
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World Series participants have no time to demote the defensive specialist or pinch-running extrodinare they called up and added to the playoff roster. Even if it's one or two cycles, its better than being stuck with the player with a big league salary the next season.
10/31/2011 10:41 PM
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I agree completely. Maybe just 1 extra day or something would be perfect.
11/1/2011 3:59 AM
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Great suggestion!
11/1/2011 8:28 AM
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It's nice but not really necessary.  You were in the WS.   Having to pay a player or three an extra 275k doesn't seem like too big of a punishment.    Competitive balance and all.

What you have to keep in mind, and all of us want to make the WS every year, is that this game NEEDS some measure of parity.   Worlds that are competitive fill quicker/better than worlds where the same teams are always on top.   One small way to make that happen is to force the WS teams to fork out a few extra dollars for their specialty players. 

And I always add 1-2 specialty guys to my playoff roster.
11/1/2011 8:32 AM
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in my last world series i demoted some POS i was using as a defensive replacement in RF before game 6 because I decided he wasn't helping me win the world series so I'd save the scrill.

otherwise most people i call up i want to keep up, so it's really not a huge deal.
11/1/2011 12:27 PM
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Posted by burnsy483 on 10/31/2011 10:41:00 PM (view original):
World Series participants have no time to demote the defensive specialist or pinch-running extrodinare they called up and added to the playoff roster. Even if it's one or two cycles, its better than being stuck with the player with a big league salary the next season.
+1
11/1/2011 12:49 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 11/1/2011 8:32:00 AM (view original):
It's nice but not really necessary.  You were in the WS.   Having to pay a player or three an extra 275k doesn't seem like too big of a punishment.    Competitive balance and all.

What you have to keep in mind, and all of us want to make the WS every year, is that this game NEEDS some measure of parity.   Worlds that are competitive fill quicker/better than worlds where the same teams are always on top.   One small way to make that happen is to force the WS teams to fork out a few extra dollars for their specialty players. 

And I always add 1-2 specialty guys to my playoff roster.
I'm confident this part of the game isn't in intentionally to help with parity.  It's not a big deal, but I don't think it's asking for much for 3-6 hours to demote my players.  Just makes the game a little more realistic and fair.
11/1/2011 1:40 PM
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Maybe more realistic but "fair" has already been covered.   A small way of weakening the top 2 teams. 
11/1/2011 1:50 PM
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I get your point with parity.  But why stop there then?  WS participants have to deal with their arb guys demanding 15% more than non-WS teams, and their free agents are 25% more likely to leave... for the sake of parity.

I recognize we're going to disagree on this.
11/1/2011 2:02 PM
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Sure, if you want to be silly about it.     Why not force WS teams to play with 23 man rosters the next season?   Maybe dock them 5m from their budget?  Start them off 0-10 vs their division?

Seriously, you're in the WS.  You're better than everyone else in a game designed for parity.  IF, and not everyone will promote 1-3 specialty players for the playoffs, you can't work around a 825K deficit the next season, maybe you don't deserve to be in the WS. 

11/1/2011 2:06 PM
burnsy483
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I guess that's the point.  Not being allowed to demote these guys seems silly.
11/1/2011 2:36 PM
MikeT23
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Asking for the opportunity to do so after a WS appearance seems just as silly.  

Truthfully, I'd like to do it because, sometimes, a player with no option cleared revocable waivers.    After rollover, he has to clear waivers again and isn't protected if claimed.   Forces me to keep someone on my BL roster that I'd prefer to have in AAA.   But, hey, I made the WS, I'll deal with it.

11/1/2011 2:43 PM
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what's a world series appearance?
11/1/2011 2:52 PM
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First of all if you're in the world series, I highly doubt that you are going to being leaning heavily on late season callups, unless you ******* suck and got to the world series through sheer luck, in which case just be glad that you luckboxed a WS trip and STFU.

As somebody who routinely goes to the world series, anybody that is important to my postseason roster is somebody that I normally will want to keep in the majors next year.  The one time I had a tough decision was when I had this guy sitting in the minors

whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx

He was ML ready by the time the postseason came around, but only had 1 option year left.  So if I called him up, I would have an extra quality arm in my pen.  The risk was that if I went to the WS, I wouldn't be able to demote him for the first 20 days of the following seasons to delay his arb clock.  As it turns out, I won the WS and by the next season he was out of options and his arb clock started a year earlier than I would have liked.

Of course it would have been easier on me to just win the series and then stash him immediately in AAA, but that was the type of decision that I enjoyed making.  I already manipulate the system in HBD so much that I don't think it hurts to have a few less opportunities to do so, esp when it's offset by the fact that my ML team made the world series.

Other than that last year I demoted this guy before game 6 and played with 24 guys because he was a worthless piece of **** that I didn't need:

http://whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=2840735

If you don't want to pay a guy $327K next year, don't bring him on your playoff roster, problem solved.

11/1/2011 5:37 PM
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