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jkorn
11/4/2011 5:58 PM
Maybe you aren't aware of this, but speed in the game has a positional dependence.  There is only 1 true (ie primary position) middle infielder in the game who fits your criteria, and he can't hit and has 150 PAs.  There are no players with better than D/D- defense at SS worth $2.5 million+.
11/4/2011 7:04 PM
Also, if you search for outfielders who fit the criteria and allow OF to be a secondary position the top 30 most expensive guys are all catchers with OF secondary positions.  The remainder of the top 20 are more catchers, DHs, and first basemen - no primary outfielders in the top 50.  The only full-time option at 3B with acceptable defensive ratings is 2001 Joe Randa, who hit .253/.300/.386 in a terribly normalizing season.  The concept is interesting, but I don't think it actually works well at all.
11/4/2011 7:08 PM
Speed rating has nothing to do with stolen base efficiency, only RL stolen bases.  If you really like this concept and want it to work why not just limit the player pool to players who have 0 stolen bases, or 0 attempts, or even no more than 10 steals with a success rate not above 50% or something like that.
11/4/2011 7:10 PM
that does make sense....sound like I'll be revising this a bit then
11/4/2011 7:39 PM
OK, revised to use players without any steals.  I'll check to see what kind of team I can come up with and see if I need to use some players with steals.....maybe less than 10.
11/4/2011 7:55 PM
I'll play under a reasonable revision.  The original rules just didn't seem very workable.  I mean, it would have made for a challenging league, but not the one you probably had in mind when you came up with the idea...
11/4/2011 9:32 PM
I'll put a bit more thought to it....suggestions welcome :()
11/4/2011 10:50 PM
Does the box score always show hit and run, even if a player steals and the batter takes the pitch? Even if it does, are you going to go through every box score of every game to make sure no AAA guys steal? Also, if you're already eliminating steals from the game, why bother to ban A+ arms? If no one can run, there's no point in paying a premium for a catcher with an A+ arm anyway. I like the idea you're aiming at, but don't think you need to go to these extremes. If you limit position players to those with a 25% success rate or less, nobody's going to run much regardless of whether it's allowed or what the C arms are. You could also make it draft-your-own AAA so nobody accidentally gets a high-speed player.

You could also cap the speed rating, to take make hit and run far less attractive.

Something like this would accomplish the objective with far less oversight required, and without limiting the player pool so drastically.

Players with 25% or better SB success rate ineligible
Players with speed rating over 75 ineligible
6/4 draft your own AAA (none can have SB success rate greater than 25%)
Pitchers may not be used as pinch runners

11/5/2011 2:01 AM (edited)
Maybe I should just use an honor system for steal lol.....I'll just throw out a question: If you are interested in joining a no steal live league, post a reply here and if I get more than 10 positive responses, I will redo the rules with the suggestions I get and go forward.  It's hard enough to get the live leagues filled in a reasonable time so let's see if there is interest.


11/5/2011 7:10 AM
I have also never joined a pick your own AAA league.  How does that aspect work?
11/5/2011 7:11 AM
After you draft your 25-man roster you get the option to choose your own AAA out of the pool of players that fit into that AAA category.  For PYO AAA you'd probably not want to use random but average or even below average since everybody gets to pick the cream of the crop.  I would be up for Josh's rules or any other reasonable rules.  Not a steals guy in general, so this plays right into my hands.
11/5/2011 7:11 PM
Random is not an option for pick your own
11/6/2011 11:30 AM
I adjusted the rules and started a "No Steal League".  Join there 
11/7/2011 7:27 AM
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