How do you prove collusion? Topic

One of my leagues had an owner take over a semi-competitive team, this owner had 2 previous seasons. He made 6 trades in his first year, many of which werent in his favor. When we started to question what he was doing, he stated he was rebuilding and "Would be in it for the long haul"

He left the league after one year, and having traded away a vast majority of his talent, my question is. If a user signs up with another account he would have to use a different email address. So how can you prove that this user colluded with another?

Does WIS track users IP addresses?
11/18/2011 3:24 PM
I think they do and they would be able to tell if said user used the same computer for both accounts at any time.  But I'm no computer guru so check with someone else.
11/18/2011 5:49 PM
Yes, they track IP addresses. Send a ticket.
11/18/2011 6:06 PM
They are hardpressed to do much. I have seen users admit "I know the other guy in real life and I was throwing him a bone" and they still did not do anything.
11/18/2011 10:25 PM
Tracking IPv4 addresses won't achieve much if some one is using a proxy server.   (Or if two different people are using the same college computer, or home computer etc.)
 
Accounts have to be paid for, usually by CC, that would, I think, be a better way to track aliases.

In any case, you have to have strongly proactive commisioners do do anything at all, as WIS wont do anything on their own.
11/18/2011 10:42 PM
What would you expect them to do at this point anyway? Kick out the owners the trades benefitted?
11/19/2011 12:21 AM
Or at least give a warning to them
11/19/2011 1:28 AM
Posted by nauds3000 on 11/18/2011 3:24:00 PM (view original):
One of my leagues had an owner take over a semi-competitive team, this owner had 2 previous seasons. He made 6 trades in his first year, many of which werent in his favor. When we started to question what he was doing, he stated he was rebuilding and "Would be in it for the long haul"

He left the league after one year, and having traded away a vast majority of his talent, my question is. If a user signs up with another account he would have to use a different email address. So how can you prove that this user colluded with another?

Does WIS track users IP addresses?
The commish of the world should do some screening of incoming owners before allowing them in.  Screening can take many different forms, but what I typically do is:

1) Look at the track records of the owners in other worlds.  Do they tend to stick around, or are they "one and out" owners?
2) Browse through the World Chat of the worlds the potential new owner is currently in and look to see if there's any problems there that he is in the middle of?  If he's a "bad apple", something might jump out there.
3) Most important: get references.  Find other owners that you know in worlds he's either currently in, or has previously played in, and ask them: "Is there any reason why we might NOT want to let xxxxx into our world?  If you don't know any owners in those worlds, send a sitemail to the commish.
11/19/2011 8:05 AM
Posted by robocoach on 11/18/2011 10:42:00 PM (view original):
Tracking IPv4 addresses won't achieve much if some one is using a proxy server.   (Or if two different people are using the same college computer, or home computer etc.)
 
Accounts have to be paid for, usually by CC, that would, I think, be a better way to track aliases.

In any case, you have to have strongly proactive commisioners do do anything at all, as WIS wont do anything on their own.
the thing about the cc is you'll hear excuses like 'hes my roommate and doesnt have a cc so i paid for his team with mine'
11/19/2011 8:32 AM
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