I have a guy considering me but I am in second place. To try and move up I offer minutes but they get rejected because he "doesn't know enough about my program.". Then why are you considering me kid? If the kid won't accept the minutes unless I am leading what the hell is the point of the feature?

Usually they accept even if they aren't first, dont know whats going on there.

Posted by 29707 on 12/3/2011 11:37:00 AM (view original):
Usually they accept even if they aren't first, dont know whats going on there.

eh thats not really true, in my experience if you're behind enough they wont accept them

they'll accept the start more easily for whatever reason

If you're close enough for the minutes to propel you into the lead he'll accept them.

Right.  Frankly, I don't think minutes or a start should ever be rejected. 

"Hey, X recruit, I promise if you come to play at my school, you'll play 15 minutes per game as a freshman."

Regardless of what happens after, the promise is still there.

It gets rejected when you're pretty far behind. But I'm with isack, it really should never be rejected, but I do think they should never be rejected, but instead just have them not have any impact.

Offer to start him. He'll accept that, I'm 90% sure. Then see if he goes for 10 or 15 mins. (assuming, of course, actually starting him your next season is a realistic and not going to make a mess of your team)

Posted by kmasonbx on 12/3/2011 8:28:00 PM (view original):
It gets rejected when you're pretty far behind. But I'm with isack, it really should never be rejected, but I do think they should never be rejected, but instead just have them not have any impact.

I disagree.

If a 5 star prospect is offered fifteen minutes guaranteed at Stephen F. Austin, is he really going to accept them?  He's going to say "Hell no" and tell them to move on.

I think the circumstances in which guaranteed minutes are rejected may need to be examined, but having guaranteed minutes automatically accepted isn't necessarily the correct path to follow.

Seems as though promised start/minutes me little-to-nothing anyway.

SR transfer would rather be parked on the bench instead of start and get 25 minutes for a lesser prestige school? I think not.

/bitter

Posted by sol_phenom3 on 12/5/2011 1:01:00 AM (view original):

Posted by kmasonbx on 12/3/2011 8:28:00 PM (view original):
It gets rejected when you're pretty far behind. But I'm with isack, it really should never be rejected, but I do think they should never be rejected, but instead just have them not have any impact.

I disagree.

If a 5 star prospect is offered fifteen minutes guaranteed at Stephen F. Austin, is he really going to accept them?  He's going to say "Hell no" and tell them to move on.

I think the circumstances in which guaranteed minutes are rejected may need to be examined, but having guaranteed minutes automatically accepted isn't necessarily the correct path to follow.

your example is a good one to show why they need not be accepted initially. but, if you offer a promise - start or minutes - and later on make more effort to get the recruit to consider you, the promise should stick and the effort counted so that you (1) don't have to make the promise again; (2) get credit for effort you made; and (3) have to live with something you 'put out there'. using your example above, if after the initial hell no, you bring the 5 star to the campus enough times and visit his home so that he says 'yeah, i can see myself going here', wouldn't he turn to the coach and say, 'i especially like that all the tail you threw my way while i was on campus would go crazy seeing me start as a freshman! thanks for the promise!' ??