Boog, you know I love you, and I hate to be critical of anyone, but I have to say that I think your witness to Our Lord would be more effective if you tried not to be so abrasive the rest of the time. That said, I do appreciate the kind words, and well wishes you have given me, and whatever success I have had in WIS, you have helped and made it easier with your patient advice when I was a noob. Why not cultivate the good side of boogerlips? You really are a great guy, I don't know why you try so hard to keep that fact hidden. Neverthless, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to you and yours. In the Book of Luke there is a passgae which is very pointed in the King James transltions, less so in NIV and other, newer translations, and I'm not sure which verse it is, but I am tempted to say Luke 19, although it may not be there. "In patience, ye possess ye your soul." The moment I read that, i tried my best to live by it.