D1 Phelan Moveup Topic

I'm currently at Alcorn State in Phelan, just finished 29-2 and got bumped from C to B- (I'm certain it's a weak B-). With 5 SRs graduating and the other returning 7 very weak (I cut a bunch of players, and ended up signing 4 players on 2 scholarship budget twice), I'm certain I will not be able to replicate my success from this season. So the question is, do I move to a Big 6 conf now?

Obviously, if I can move into a team with similar prestige, it's a no brainer. Problem is, every team I qualify for is C prestige and in not so desirable areas. HI in the PAC 10 is open but it's Hawaii, and it ends up being luck of the draw (and any top notch 4-5 star will be taken by Stanford, Cal, etc.).

Baylor is open as well but Baylor is coming off 1-26 season, in a weak B12 (little post season cash), while TX is pretty stacked with a bunch of Bish teams and strong MWC. 

Washington State (B-) is open but it's a longshot/keep looking. Washington State is a massive rebuild with 11 scholarships. Like Hawaii, I'm stuck in a remote region in a stacked Pac-10, although, the postseason cash is nice. I probably won't qualify even if I apply but if I do qual, I'm in a tough recruiting spot. 

New Mexico (C+) from the strong MWC is open, but is a longshot/keep looking. Area is not ideal like Alcorn in MS but I wouldn't mind it. The problem is, this is the MWC, not Big 6, and whether I qualify is questionable. Conf could easily take a hit with coaches moving to Big 6 conf in the coming seasons while I try to build up my resume.

So the question is, do I move up now or stay another 2-3 seasons to recruit with my B- and land 2 more NT births (I'm certain next season, I'm not NT bound unless I get very lucky in recruiting and land a bunch of great 2 stars/3 stars)

Here is the team:

http://whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=13759
1/20/2012 11:09 AM
Your conference is incredibly weak. I see no reason why you couldn't get a NT bid (although admittedly it may come down to winning the CT).

None of the jobs that you described would be enticing to me ... Wash State would be the only one that's interesting, but you're not kidding, that truly is a massive rebuild. And it would depend at least in part on how tough the other schools in the Pacific Northwest are.
1/20/2012 12:00 PM
I scheduled decently in Nonconf and could rack up 10 wins, but it will be with a weak SOS; I don't think 20-22 wins will net me at large because of no potential wins against rpi 1-50. NT birth will come to CT and I plan to start any high potential FR to maximize growth going into CT. 

I'm not enticed by any of the Big 6 jobs either and glad to see some confirmation from you. 
1/20/2012 12:05 PM
Do you think you can get Alcorn St. to the point where they make the NT every year AND win a game or two in it?  

If the answer is yes, do it and you'll become eligible for better jobs.

If the answer is no, you'll have the same situation every year with difference schools but similar issues.
1/20/2012 12:30 PM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 1/20/2012 12:30:00 PM (view original):
Do you think you can get Alcorn St. to the point where they make the NT every year AND win a game or two in it?  

If the answer is yes, do it and you'll become eligible for better jobs.

If the answer is no, you'll have the same situation every year with difference schools but similar issues.
In 2 season, I am pretty confident I can get Alcorn to consistent postseason berths, with 2nd round and S16s thrown in there once in a while. My returning group is currently thin (a reason for my pessimism this coming season) because I cut all the Simai recruits and signed 4 players on 2 scholarships worth of money, and 3 scholarship on 2 scholarships worth money. I did so to make sure I have enough depth to support my SRs this season to make a strong NT run to boost my prestige.

Last season, I should have had an NT birth sitting at rpi in the 30s, 16-1, with 1/3 of the season to go. But right after the engine update, I lost 4 in a row (5 out of 6) against opponents with rpi in the 100s-200s, dropping me out of contention, so I would view the PI last year as an anomaly. 
1/20/2012 12:37 PM
Well, then it boils down to three scenarios:

1. Choose a "better" team with warts now.
2. Choose a "better team" with different warts next season.
2. Choose a "way better" team with less warts in 2-3 seasons.

If it were me, I would go with the complete rebuild but I like that sort of thing.
1/20/2012 12:55 PM
The mwc would love you. Were better than some big 6 conferences. Utah is a power and there are 3-4 others of us that have decent teams
1/20/2012 1:33 PM
come to the horizon
1/20/2012 1:35 PM
Posted by dacj501 on 1/20/2012 1:35:00 PM (view original):
come to the horizon
I'm at B-, you are at C+. You should be coming to the big sky!
1/20/2012 3:46 PM
Washington st can be a fantastic job. You have some very real distance advantages there.
1/21/2012 2:20 AM
Posted by tianyi7886 on 1/20/2012 3:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dacj501 on 1/20/2012 1:35:00 PM (view original):
come to the horizon
I'm at B-, you are at C+. You should be coming to the big sky!
give me a chance - just went 16-0 to get to that C+...
1/21/2012 2:29 AM
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