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usc4life
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Check this out:

WCAA concludes infractions inquiry at St. Edward's. Finds 7 recruiting violations. Program placed on 1 year probation. 1 player suspended. Lose 2 scholarships during probation period. Banned from post-season play.

This is the harshest penalty I've ever seen
3/18/2012 3:19 PM
salag
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I saw that this morning. World: Allen.

But 7 violations is a lot...Banned from post-season play, does that include CT? If it does that that really hurts, losing the 2 scholarships for a year really hurts too becuase you have to take walk-ons and that hurts your other players improvements.

Coach should be show-caused.
3/18/2012 3:46 PM
mamxet
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folks say that there was a team with bad enough problems that WIS had the roster get wiped out in a plane crash

3/19/2012 10:01 AM
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Posted by mamxet on 3/19/2012 10:01:00 AM (view original):

folks say that there was a team with bad enough problems that WIS had the roster get wiped out in a plane crash

I remember hearing about that but never actually hearing the full story, anyone care to elaborate?
3/19/2012 10:17 AM
dmurphy104
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I remember that..Drawing a blank on what school. The owner used a ton of booster gifts to sign a  roster full of D1 level players to D3. It used to be you could offer unlimited high value gifts at D3--I believe it changed right after that.
3/19/2012 10:24 AM
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Posted by usc4life on 3/18/2012 3:19:00 PM (view original):
Check this out:

WCAA concludes infractions inquiry at St. Edward's. Finds 7 recruiting violations. Program placed on 1 year probation. 1 player suspended. Lose 2 scholarships during probation period. Banned from post-season play.

This is the harshest penalty I've ever seen
Yep.  Congratulations to me on not being the dirtiest coach in Allen anymore!
3/19/2012 12:08 PM
cornfused
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Posted by salag on 3/18/2012 3:46:00 PM (view original):
I saw that this morning. World: Allen.

But 7 violations is a lot...Banned from post-season play, does that include CT? If it does that that really hurts, losing the 2 scholarships for a year really hurts too becuase you have to take walk-ons and that hurts your other players improvements.

Coach should be show-caused.
And he effectively IS show-caused.  It'll be tough for him to right that ship - are there not firings at DII?  - and no one outside of DIII will ever hire him again.  I've never been docked a scholarship for violations, and even after I made the DI Elite Eight, I was not qualified for C- prestige schools at DII.
3/19/2012 12:09 PM
cornfused
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Remarkably, too, he didn't get his wins zeroed.  So that means that he didn't actually SIGN any of the players he threw the gifts at.
3/19/2012 12:15 PM
dacj501
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thats taking the no risk no reward philosophy to the max...
3/19/2012 1:25 PM
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Posted by cornfused on 3/19/2012 12:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by salag on 3/18/2012 3:46:00 PM (view original):
I saw that this morning. World: Allen.

But 7 violations is a lot...Banned from post-season play, does that include CT? If it does that that really hurts, losing the 2 scholarships for a year really hurts too becuase you have to take walk-ons and that hurts your other players improvements.

Coach should be show-caused.
And he effectively IS show-caused.  It'll be tough for him to right that ship - are there not firings at DII?  - and no one outside of DIII will ever hire him again.  I've never been docked a scholarship for violations, and even after I made the DI Elite Eight, I was not qualified for C- prestige schools at DII.
nope, no firings at d2. so he'll be fine, assuming he can coach.
3/19/2012 3:03 PM
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At Duke in Knight i had over 50 recruiting violations, lost 4 scholarships, was banned from the postseason and got a sitemail from seble to smarten up or i'd get removed entirely from WIS.
3/19/2012 3:50 PM
cornfused
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Posted by tannermcc on 3/19/2012 3:50:00 PM (view original):
At Duke in Knight i had over 50 recruiting violations, lost 4 scholarships, was banned from the postseason and got a sitemail from seble to smarten up or i'd get removed entirely from WIS.
This I don't understand - I mean, they're illegalish in the game, but they're not CHEATING or at all a violation of site policy.
3/19/2012 4:32 PM
dacj501
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Posted by cornfused on 3/19/2012 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tannermcc on 3/19/2012 3:50:00 PM (view original):
At Duke in Knight i had over 50 recruiting violations, lost 4 scholarships, was banned from the postseason and got a sitemail from seble to smarten up or i'd get removed entirely from WIS.
This I don't understand - I mean, they're illegalish in the game, but they're not CHEATING or at all a violation of site policy.
Agreed they are part of the program...
3/19/2012 4:55 PM
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Yeah, I would have sent him a sitemail back asking what grounds he had for that threat and saying that if he didn't want people to utilize the parameters of the game then they should remove them...
3/19/2012 4:59 PM
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was the intention - or did it appear that the intention - was to destroy the program rather than sincerely playing the game?

I have seen coaches intentionally destroy a team because they were peaved and I can imagine admin telling someone to stop if it the behavior looked like an effort to hurt the program

on the other hand, as a terps fan who has systematically avoided ever coaching certain schools maybe it would be fun to see how bad I could make them?  "what if" as they say....
3/19/2012 5:16 PM
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