Just thought I would share this because it comes up a lot in the forums.

With a B+  I just pulled down and signed:

#177 PG -340 Miles away- 36 Scouts
#178 PG- 20 Miles away- 20 Scouts
#147 C- 50 Miles away-20 Scouts

All four had four years of eligibility.

None are really good ;)

What was their original response? Backup plan or no shot really?

Posted by jacobwalls on 4/28/2012 4:36:00 AM (view original):
What was their original response? Backup plan or no shot really?

You can only pull down guys who give you the backup message.  If you get the no shot message, then you have no shot.

I have a newly-minted A+ prestige.  I've pulled down ranked guys before, and pulled down the #140 PG this cycle.  But for the first time I can remember, I'm now seeing ranked guys as D2 non-pulldowns.

Caveat: the #140 PG cost me double what a normal pulldown should in STs to get him to drop.  His overall ratings weren't special and neither were any of his potentials.  I think he just read too many of his own press clippings.

if his ratings and potential arent special why recruit him?

Posted by dacj501 on 4/28/2012 10:11:00 AM (view original):
if his ratings and potential arent special why recruit him?

He was "best available" at the position I needed (PG).  The guy I wanted more (and who wasn't ranked)  had already turned me down and considered someone else.

Posted by ethan66 on 4/28/2012 10:28:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dacj501 on 4/28/2012 10:11:00 AM (view original):
if his ratings and potential arent special why recruit him?

He was "best available" at the position I needed (PG).  The guy I wanted more (and who wasn't ranked)  had already turned me down and considered someone else.

ethan, when you say "turned you down" ... that's not really true. Sounds like you may be reading too heavily into the generic messaging from recruits. If you can get the #140 pg to consider you, then you can 100% get that unranked guy to consider you, too.

Now, if you don't want to battle for him, that's another story. But he definitely didn't turn you down.

"But for the first time I can remember, I'm now seeing ranked guys as D2 non-pulldowns."

Yeah, I saw guys ranked 170+ dropdown to DII this period.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 4/28/2012 12:12:00 PM (view original):
"But for the first time I can remember, I'm now seeing ranked guys as D2 non-pulldowns."

Yeah, I saw guys ranked 170+ dropdown to DII this period.

That's weird because as an A-prestige school in Allen, I was rejected by a number of 170ish guys.

In fact, in the Gulf South, arguably the best D2 conf of all time, we only got a couple of ranked guys, and no one higher than 170.

How far away?  I think distance has something to do with it/

or not....this is my DII screen on day three of recruiting

36 scouts??

Were you competing against someone?

I don't know.   He didn't consider me until the last 7....at 29 he was still undecided.   At 36 he considered me and signed the next period.

Someone else may have been trying to pull him down but I don't know.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 4/28/2012 12:38:00 PM (view original):
How far away?  I think distance has something to do with it/

Within 350 miles.

But no one was getting ranked recruits from our conference.  Obviously we pulled a few, but no one was anywhere near 150.

Posted by isack24 on 4/28/2012 12:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 4/28/2012 12:12:00 PM (view original):
"But for the first time I can remember, I'm now seeing ranked guys as D2 non-pulldowns."

Yeah, I saw guys ranked 170+ dropdown to DII this period.

That's weird because as an A-prestige school in Allen, I was rejected by a number of 170ish guys.

In fact, in the Gulf South, arguably the best D2 conf of all time, we only got a couple of ranked guys, and no one higher than 170.

170 is not equal to 170. the 170 sg or sf talking to you is a lot different than the 170PF talking to you. of course, it changes every season, based on the open scholarships of everybody.