The NBA Team Icon is starting up our second season and we need two owners for 1990-1991. The teams available are the Pacers and the Clippers. The basic premise of the NBA Icon is that you can only draft players who played for your team at some point in their career. If a player played only for your team (or for only your team and the defunct team(s) you get him automatically (good or bad) and he must be kept on your roster. Also if a player played for the first 10+ seasons of his career for your team and then spent 3 years or less (total) with other teams you get him as well. This is called a Team Icon.

The rosters are below. Feel free to ask any questions. The defunct teams are the Timberwolves, Nets, Bucks plus any future teams (Raptors, Grizzlies, etc.) Also for divisional alignment purposes the Kings moved back to Cincinnati (Midwest Division of the Western Conference) and the Hawks moved back to St. Louis (Central Division of the Eastern Conference.)

Los Angeles Clippers
Drafts 3rd in 1990-1991
PG- Sherman Douglas (MIA, BOS, LAC)
PG- Doc Rivers (STL, LAC, NYK, SAS)
PG- Winston Garland (GSW, LAC, DEN, HOU)
SG Jeff Martin CK
PF- Tim Kempton (LAC, CHH, DEN, PHO, CLE, STL, SAS, ORL)
PF- Danny Manning (LAC, STL, PHO, UTA, DAL, DET)
PF- John Williams (WSB, LAC, IND)
C- Michael Cage (LAC, SEA, PHI)
C- James Edwards (LAL, IND, CLE, PHO, DET, LAC, POR, CHI)

Indiana Pacers
Drafts 16th in 1990-1991
PG- Vern Fleming TI
PG- Pooh Richardson (IND, LAC)
PG- Micheal Williams (DET, PHO, CHH, IND)
SG- Reggie Miller CK
SF- Derrick McKey (SEA, IND, PHI)
SF- Chuck Person (IND, SAS, CHH, SEA)
PF- Sam Mitchell TI
PF- Detlef Schrempf (DAL, IND, SEA, POR)
PF- Wayman Tisdale (IND, CIN, PHO)
PF- Kenny Williams CK
C- Greg Kite (BOS, LAC, CHH, CIN, ORL, NYK, IND)
C- Rik Smits CK

I'm trying to understand this League, so I'm going to ask this question here, in hopes it might help not only me, but others.

How is Sam Mitchell a Team Icon for Indiana, when his first 3 seasons were with Minnesota, and he only played 3 seasons with Indiana?  According to the definition, it seems he would have had to play his first 10 seasons with Indiana to be a Team Icon for them. 

No one selected Minnesota all3

Yep. Since by the rules Sam Mitchell would only be eligible to be drafted by Minnesota and Indiana he became a Team Icon for the Pacers because nobody selected Minnesota.  So the Pacers are the only team left that can have him.

Any chance perspective owners could get a list of players available in the Draft posted here?

OK, how about just the guys that these 2 teams could possibly Draft.

Sorry, I've been out of town. I am in the process of making up the available lists but here are the rookies that are available in 1990-1991. It might be missing a few guys, but should be nearly right. It's alot harder to make NBA Rookie lists than it is with the MLB Sim.

Pacers Availables
Drafts 16th in 1990-1991
PG Jerry Sichting (IND, BOS, POR, CHH)
PG Haywoode Workman (STL, WSB, IND)
SF Anthony Frederick (IND, CIN, CHH)
SF Gerald Paddio (CLE, SEA, IND, NYK, WAS)
SF Randy Wittman (STL, CIN, IND)
PF Terry Mills (DET, MIA, IND)
PF Kenny Williams PACERS CK
C Greg Dreiling (IND, DAL, CLE)
C Dwayne Schintzius (SAS, CIN, IND)

Clippers Availables
Drafts 3rd in 1990-1991
PG Larry Drew (DET, CIN, LAC, LAL)
PG Jim Les (UTA, LAC, CIN, STL)
PG Darnell Valentine (POR, LAC, CLE)
SG Bo Kimble (LAC, NYK)
SF Kiki Vandeweghe (DEN, POR, NYK, LAC)
PF Henry James (CLE, CIN, UTA, LAC, HOU, STL)
PF Loy Vaught (LAC, DET, DAL, WAS)
C Joe Wolf (LAC, DEN, BOS, POR, CHH, ORL)

Hornets Availables
Drafts 11th and 13th in 1990-1991
PG Steve Henson (ATL, CHH, POR, DET)
PG Andre Turner (BOS, HOU, LAC, CHH, PHI, WSB)
PG Jerry Sichting (IND, BOS, POR, CHH)
SG Kendall Gill (CHH, SEA, MIA, CHI)
SG Tony Smith (LAL, PHO, MIA, CHH, STL)
SF Willie Burton (Mia, PHI, STL, SAS, CHH)
SF Anthony Frederick (IND, CIN, CHH)
SF Gerald Glass (DET, CHH)
SF Randolph Keys (CLE, CHH, LAL)
PF Derrick Coleman (PHI, CHH, DET)
C Steve Scheffler (CHH, CIN, SEA, DEN)
C Joe Wolf (LAC, DEN, BOS, POR, CHH, ORL)

Appreciate the list greatly.  Thanks!
Unfortunately, if I understand correctly, it may have muted my interest.  
The only players Indiana can draft (if they drop someone) are Sichting, Frederick, or Dreiling, correct?
(Hopefully) One final question: are trades OK (as long as the teams "work")?  

The owner of the Hornets has offered to switch to the Pacers if someone would prefer to take the Hornets. Here is their roster
Charlotte Hornets- Need 2 picks

Keeping (10)
Hornets Pick #11
Robert Parish
Rickey Green
Mike Gminski
Kelly Tripucka
Dale Ellis
Dell Curry
David Wingate
Muggsy Bogues
Kenny Gattison
Tom Hammonds

Picks added-
Spurs 1st round (#13)

Posted by all3 on 6/22/2012 4:33:00 PM (view original):
Appreciate the list greatly.  Thanks!
Unfortunately, if I understand correctly, it may have muted my interest.  
The only players Indiana can draft (if they drop someone) are Sichting, Frederick, or Dreiling, correct?
(Hopefully) One final question: are trades OK (as long as the teams "work")?  

Actually there are 9 players listed that can be drafted by the Pacers plus cuts from other teams

Posted by coled on 6/23/2012 3:56:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 6/22/2012 4:33:00 PM (view original):
Appreciate the list greatly.  Thanks!
Unfortunately, if I understand correctly, it may have muted my interest.  
The only players Indiana can draft (if they drop someone) are Sichting, Frederick, or Dreiling, correct?
(Hopefully) One final question: are trades OK (as long as the teams "work")?  

Actually there are 9 players listed that can be drafted by the Pacers plus cuts from other teams

Now, with the edited post.

Yep, I added Undrafted FAs from last year. There might be a few more depending on the cuts of current teams. And yes, trades are ok as long as the traded players are eligible for their new team.

Anyone? Its a cool concept and it makes building a team challenging.

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