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I have got a potental superstar closer (I think). http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=4588264

I'm starting my second season (pretty new to HBD) with this team....so I'm wondering how do bring this guy up and make him the star he can be...
6/21/2012 1:26 PM
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He's really good, but I'd use him at Long Relief A to maximize his innings ( and development )  One level per year is the goal.  Make sure he has a good pitching coach.
6/21/2012 1:32 PM
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I use a guy with similar DUR/STA at Setup A and he logs about 130-140 ip each season
6/21/2012 1:50 PM
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Stick him at AA, put him at setup a, available any inning. Should rack up a ton of innings.
6/21/2012 3:06 PM
dvsman
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so innings is the goal...I would have figured make him the closer and have him nail that role...good to know...how does the set-up A vs B really work?
6/21/2012 3:17 PM
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When developing a prospect ALL that matters is maximum playing time/ip. So even if you plan on him being your BL closer one day, you still want him at Setup or even long relief in the minors just to ensure he logs the most innings possible.

My experience is that Setup B guys come in when the game is not very close or the Setup A guys are resting/fatigued.
Someone may have a better answer, but that is what I have observed...

6/21/2012 3:37 PM (edited)
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SIMMY determines when RP pitch.  You determine when SP pitch.   If you fully want to maximize his playing time, use him as a B tandem.   Asumming he's successful, that will be Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Matt Christensen role starting tonight.   I used him as a 40 pitch starter for most of his minor league career.

6/21/2012 3:37 PM
dvsman
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You guys have blown my mind, like dividing by zero....I'll do this once the season starts and make him my stud to be...I gather this method of "play 'em" works on position players as well then.
6/21/2012 10:36 PM
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Absolutely.
6/21/2012 10:41 PM
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Posted by dvsman on 6/21/2012 10:36:00 PM (view original):
You guys have blown my mind, like dividing by zero....I'll do this once the season starts and make him my stud to be...I gather this method of "play 'em" works on position players as well then.
I wanted to add my own 2 cents.  Playing time is the most important and the specific reason to use that guy as SuA or LRA is because they will almost always see more innings than Closer. 

For position players, you typically want to bat them higher in the lineup to get them more ABs (if they are good they should bat high in the lineup anyway).  One last tip.... play position players at teh most difficult position they can conceivably play.  If you have a stud hitting DH, play him at 1B or C so his defense progresses better, maybe possibly to the point where he can even play that position once he reaches Big Leagues.  If you have a guy who most likely play 3B or 2B once he reaches ML, but he is reasonably close to playing SS, play him at SS all through minors.  Player's defensive ratings progress better the more difficult position they play (I think the order is similar to SS, CF, 2B, 3B, RF, LF, 1B, C).
6/22/2012 1:27 PM
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Posted by mchalesarmy on 6/21/2012 3:37:00 PM (view original):
When developing a prospect ALL that matters is maximum playing time/ip. So even if you plan on him being your BL closer one day, you still want him at Setup or even long relief in the minors just to ensure he logs the most innings possible.

My experience is that Setup B guys come in when the game is not very close or the Setup A guys are resting/fatigued.
Someone may have a better answer, but that is what I have observed...

The first part of this is untrue. There are other factors that matter in development, especially Pitching Coaches (or HC for hitters, obviously) and Training Budget. Put him at a level where you have your best or close to best PC.
6/22/2012 1:29 PM
MikeT23
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Not very many of us are convinced that playing a player at a tougher position develops a player better.

If that's true, shouldn't we play our 1B/DH-types at SS in the minors(assuming no SS prospects) in order to maximize development?     Does it make sense that WifS would program their game that way?
6/22/2012 1:55 PM
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Posted by joshkvt on 6/22/2012 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mchalesarmy on 6/21/2012 3:37:00 PM (view original):
When developing a prospect ALL that matters is maximum playing time/ip. So even if you plan on him being your BL closer one day, you still want him at Setup or even long relief in the minors just to ensure he logs the most innings possible.

My experience is that Setup B guys come in when the game is not very close or the Setup A guys are resting/fatigued.
Someone may have a better answer, but that is what I have observed...

The first part of this is untrue. There are other factors that matter in development, especially Pitching Coaches (or HC for hitters, obviously) and Training Budget. Put him at a level where you have your best or close to best PC.
He wasn't asking about everything that goes into development.

He asked this:

Quote post by dvsman on 6/21/2012 3:17:00 PM:
so innings is the goal...I would have figured make him the closer and have him nail that role...good to know...how does the set-up A vs B really work?


My statement taken out of context is wrong, sure, but addressing his question it is dead on.
It doesn't matter where you want to play him in the bigs, get him as many ip as possible. Which is why I satated such in my reply.
 
That was the point and it is 100% factual.


And what makes you think Training is relevant at all? 
Besides the obvious reduction in injuries and down time associated with it, training plays no role in development that I am aware of.
6/22/2012 2:33 PM (edited)
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Then you're not aware that training is very important to the physical development of players.
6/22/2012 2:37 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/22/2012 2:37:00 PM (view original):
Then you're not aware that training is very important to the physical development of players.
Well I knew it helped keep older guys from declining as rapidly, just never made the connection that those same ratings could be helped along in development.

Would you say training is actually THE budget that affects those physical attributes?
Regardless of coaching, a 20 training will produce greatest growth in Power Stamina Dur and such?
6/22/2012 2:54 PM
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