FSS Question from a Neophyte Topic

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I am finishing up my first season and have a few questions about the FSS service.  I will be starting a new season here pretty quick and am trying to determine whether I should subscribe or not.  My issue is that I only have two scholarships to fill and will have a limited budget, so if I choose to subscribe for one or two states, will I have enough $$$ left in my budget for recruit bidding?  Secondly, does the FSS service provide potentials for all recruits in all of their categories?  Is there a link somewhere that tells exactly what it is that you get from this service?
6/25/2012 12:10 PM
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you should/must use FSS to be good..  you can usually sign local prospects for under 1500 a piece so get a couple of states.  you get all potentials for all players in the state except for transfers.  
6/25/2012 12:32 PM
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At DIII,  needing 2 recruits, I'd reserve $6,000 for recruiting and spend the rest on FSS.  That gives you a cushion if you lose a battle or two.  You can always add more FSS later if necessary.

6/25/2012 12:43 PM
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Also going with what Alblack said after signings start scouting gets cheaper
6/25/2012 12:45 PM
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As a new player (and for most veterans) you have almost 0 chance of being competitive without FSS, that is really all you need to know.

But yes what everyone said is true and you will see all potential for all players in that state to answer your other question.
6/25/2012 12:47 PM
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Okay guys, thanks.  My first year was at the discounted price so I could not subscribe and found myself dazed and confused when trying to figure out who to recruit and how to get them to come to my school.  Maybe I will do better with FSS.
6/25/2012 1:02 PM
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Posted by bullman17 on 6/25/2012 1:02:00 PM (view original):
Okay guys, thanks.  My first year was at the discounted price so I could not subscribe and found myself dazed and confused when trying to figure out who to recruit and how to get them to come to my school.  Maybe I will do better with FSS.
http://wisjournal.com/forums/Posts.aspx?TopicID=453763&TopicsTimeframe=30&TopicsPage=2
http://wisjournal.com/forums/Posts.aspx?TopicID=329367&TopicsTimeframe=30

Both links have good information, mine is a bit older but still holds true for many things about how I coach.
6/25/2012 1:19 PM
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That link is great, thanks zhawks.  

So if I subscribe to FSS, there is really no point in doing any scouting within that state, except for getting recruiting credit?  That seems odd.
6/25/2012 1:24 PM
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Posted by bullman17 on 6/25/2012 1:24:00 PM (view original):
That link is great, thanks zhawks.  

So if I subscribe to FSS, there is really no point in doing any scouting within that state, except for getting recruiting credit?  That seems odd.
Scouting trips are still very useful, just not to find base potentials as you can see those in FSS.

For example, if there's a recruit who says you're a backup, he won't accept home/campus visits, so the only way to get a decent bit of credit towards him and pull him down is to send scouting trips.  Pulldowns might not be a great idea in your first few seasons as they can be risky.

Scouting trips are also the only way to figure out if a potential is low/low-low or high/high-high.
6/25/2012 1:27 PM
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Posted by ryrun on 6/25/2012 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bullman17 on 6/25/2012 1:24:00 PM (view original):
That link is great, thanks zhawks.  

So if I subscribe to FSS, there is really no point in doing any scouting within that state, except for getting recruiting credit?  That seems odd.
Scouting trips are still very useful, just not to find base potentials as you can see those in FSS.

For example, if there's a recruit who says you're a backup, he won't accept home/campus visits, so the only way to get a decent bit of credit towards him and pull him down is to send scouting trips.  Pulldowns might not be a great idea in your first few seasons as they can be risky.

Scouting trips are also the only way to figure out if a potential is low/low-low or high/high-high.
http://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?ForumID=507&TopicID=329367&ThreadID=6640523#l_6640523
This link thanks to dacj501

http://bit.ly/oPOP9K

This has example messages of how to decide what type of high your guys potential is.
 
6/25/2012 1:30 PM
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Posted by bullman17 on 6/25/2012 1:24:00 PM (view original):
That link is great, thanks zhawks.  

So if I subscribe to FSS, there is really no point in doing any scouting within that state, except for getting recruiting credit?  That seems odd.
No - you can use scouting trips to 'pull down' recruits.
6/25/2012 1:37 PM
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the response.  I imagine you have answered these queries a million times before.
6/25/2012 5:11 PM
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Overall buy 2 or 3 states AROUND YOUR COLLEGE
Look for people who have at least 40 athletisism, Speed (unless big man), Defense
Look for high potentials and at least 20 work ethic
Send a message to pull downs and wait to see if their top options dont pan out
Balance your money is the key!

Hope it helps!
6/25/2012 5:38 PM
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I would say that is far too rigid, and I really never use search filters for that reason.  For example, a guard with 50-high speed and 30-high ATH has a good chance to turn into a great D3 player with the right ratings in other places.
6/25/2012 9:50 PM
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before you scout a state - and spend the $$ - check that there are players in that state who could - with high potentials - be useful.  Like if you need guards and only guards and state has no guard with - lets set this low - with BH and PA over 15 then you know that even with +20 those guys are going to be <35.  Now, it is possible for a player to have like 7 or 8 high potentials and it is possible to have high-high but those are rare.  So, look before you scout
6/26/2012 6:19 AM
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