Recruiting - no response to phone call Topic

dukenilnil
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Place a phone call, $10 was spent, but didnt' receive a resposne.  I laways took that as a rejection.  Is that true?
I ask, because of the following:

I have an A- prestige in D3 Phelan.  Conference mate has a B+ prestige.
I tried to call a guy 1st cycle. $10 spent, but no response to call so I let him go.
Later, conference mate ends up signing the guy with a lower prestige.

I was 190 miles away, he was 65.  So...
Is the lack of a response not a rejection?
And/or was the under 70 miles advantage worth more than the small prestige difference such that he would talk to my conference mate but not to me?
7/5/2012 2:17 PM
mjp8
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Yes to everything you said

Sometimes they take your money and don't respond, that is a rejection.

And yes his distance made the difference and gave him access to a drop down player that you didn't have.
7/5/2012 2:18 PM
colonels19
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I always call the coach now because I've had this happen before.
7/5/2012 2:19 PM
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It doesn't matter who you call.  Backup means he can be pulled down.  Anything else means you can't.

Distance was absolutely the factor.
7/5/2012 2:33 PM
dukenilnil
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Ok, so distance is more a factor than thought. Would have figured it would make the prestige up one notch at most, not more than one.
7/5/2012 3:45 PM
isack24
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I don't think that's a general rule, but when you're inside 70 miles, it changes the game on who you can go after.

7/5/2012 3:53 PM
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70miles is a magical factor. You can potentially sign D1 guys in the 70 mile radius, and recruit some D2 guys straight up. 
7/5/2012 4:48 PM
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I believe there is also a small randomness (the preference element) to how a recruit reacts to each school, so even without the 70 miles he might have talked to a school with less prestige and blown you off...but the 70 miles certainly contributes.
7/6/2012 1:20 AM
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Posted by dacj501 on 7/6/2012 1:20:00 AM (view original):
I believe there is also a small randomness (the preference element) to how a recruit reacts to each school, so even without the 70 miles he might have talked to a school with less prestige and blown you off...but the 70 miles certainly contributes.
i dont think you are right on the first part.

it was definitely the 70 miles. OP - i used to think it was about 1 letter grade, not the third of the grade you suggested. but i think i was wrong, i think iguana is the one who told me that within 70 miles, everyone can recruit who an a+ school in their division could recruit. what i haven't been able to confirm is if that really means a+ schools get no benefit in 70 miles, but i have since seen schools grab players that they would be 2 full grades off of, except for the 70 mile factor. so i think iguana had it right.
7/6/2012 1:17 PM
a_in_the_b
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At my d2 got the number 124 pg - likely because he was 20 miles away.
7/6/2012 1:48 PM
a_in_the_b
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(not drury, fla gulf coast)
7/6/2012 1:48 PM
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Posted by gillispie1 on 7/6/2012 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dacj501 on 7/6/2012 1:20:00 AM (view original):
I believe there is also a small randomness (the preference element) to how a recruit reacts to each school, so even without the 70 miles he might have talked to a school with less prestige and blown you off...but the 70 miles certainly contributes.
i dont think you are right on the first part.

it was definitely the 70 miles. OP - i used to think it was about 1 letter grade, not the third of the grade you suggested. but i think i was wrong, i think iguana is the one who told me that within 70 miles, everyone can recruit who an a+ school in their division could recruit. what i haven't been able to confirm is if that really means a+ schools get no benefit in 70 miles, but i have since seen schools grab players that they would be 2 full grades off of, except for the 70 mile factor. so i think iguana had it right.
gill, if I'm wrong (which I probably am, but who knows, right) how would you explain other situations I've seen where the 70 miles wasn't involved where a lower prestige team got a backup response from a recruit that blew me and my higher prestige off? Of course I forget all the pertinent details now, so maybe I am distorting the whole thing, but that's how I remember it...
7/6/2012 6:50 PM
angmar
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Posted by gillispie1 on 7/6/2012 1:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dacj501 on 7/6/2012 1:20:00 AM (view original):
I believe there is also a small randomness (the preference element) to how a recruit reacts to each school, so even without the 70 miles he might have talked to a school with less prestige and blown you off...but the 70 miles certainly contributes.
i dont think you are right on the first part.

it was definitely the 70 miles. OP - i used to think it was about 1 letter grade, not the third of the grade you suggested. but i think i was wrong, i think iguana is the one who told me that within 70 miles, everyone can recruit who an a+ school in their division could recruit. what i haven't been able to confirm is if that really means a+ schools get no benefit in 70 miles, but i have since seen schools grab players that they would be 2 full grades off of, except for the 70 mile factor. so i think iguana had it right.
Agreed.
7/7/2012 2:05 AM
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