I'm curious what others think of do overs. Seems like every season in every world there is at least one oops; "I forgot to protect my rule 5 guys", "I didn't mean to release that guy", oops this, oops that. To me, after your 1st season all oops go in the lessons learned ledger. Just had a guy that has played 7000 games make a plea in world chat to get the prospect back he "accidentally" released. Wants him sent back  "on the cheap". I claimed him and if I get him I have no intention of doing that.  Am I wrong here,  just being an A-hole, or what?

Depends on the "vibe" of the world.    "on the cheap" probably shouldn't be in play if there's any intention to return him.  He should be willing to give up something of value, IMO.

In season 18 of Double Day I released by accident the #1 overall pick of season 15. As I said it was an accident. I was devastated. I at once went to world chat and explained what I did and begged for mercy. I received it. rootgargle claimed him. We then worked out a deal where I sent him a prospect who had a chance to be an ML backend of the pen guy. He was content. I was elated. I consider root one of the classiest people in HBD by his action. I also sent him a gift card for 5 or 10 bucks as well. Had he not shown mercy I likely would have quit the world, I felt that bad.

I feel that returning a player you would not have had were it not for his mistake is the gentlemanly thing to do. I advise working something out with him that is fair. I know we are all out to win but to me there is a matter of playing as a gentleman too.

It's the "on the cheap" bit that sticks in my craw. 

Will offer a contrarian point, the GM Edit Roster page requires 2 steps for any action to execute. There is a Blue Box at the top that summarizes the action, and at the bottom a 2nd Submit button. I get mistakes hapoen. But what was the player doing with that highly regarded of a prospect to accidentally release the player?

Whatever happened to taking accountability for one's own mistakes?

Yeah, I know, I'm an old fart.

Posted by headpirate on 6/1/2014 9:33:00 PM (view original):
Will offer a contrarian point, the GM Edit Roster page requires 2 steps for any action to execute. There is a Blue Box at the top that summarizes the action, and at the bottom a 2nd Submit button. I get mistakes hapoen. But what was the player doing with that highly regarded of a prospect to accidentally release the player?

When you're using the "advanced mode" for roster moves, it's only one step.  

The original post mentions that the owner who did this had played over 7000 games, so he probably was using advanced roster mode.

It's still a two-step process in Advanced.  One-step to make it a pending move and a 2nd step to process pending moves.

Technically yes, but if you're doing multiple moves and not paying attention during the review, it's a lot easier to allow something to slip through the cracks with advanced mode.  Not so much with basic mode.

Not using that as any excuse . . . the owner who made the mistake should still hold himself accountable for his own mistake.

When I make several pending moves at one time, I look through each one to be sure of what I'm doing is what I want to do.  I've caught myself before doing something dumb before I did it. 

If you made a mistake, you can't expect anything.  It's your mistake.  Be happy with what you can get.  But at the end of the day - it's a game, and if he's a good owner, comes back every year, makes the world a good world, I'd just give him his guy back for a rookie level player.  Everyone makes mistakes.  I also don't want to own a player that I received by accident.  Feels dirty. That's me, though.  Like I said, he can't expect anything, he can only hope.

Guys do far worse things they should "feel dirty" about than picking up someone else's mistake.

Yup.  I'm just saying I personally wouldn't want to win that way, with a guy begging for his player back.

We had this happen, past season, guy pulled the old "Oops I missed the Rule 5 deadline"... though everyone knows and has at least a week's warning that it's coming. Yes a few guys brought up "sportsmanship" and "bygones" and such... but the final analysis in world chat was that if you wave one of these through it opens up further stuff... collusion... hey let's let him get away with it 'cause he's a good guy... let's let things slide to keep peace in the world...

I'm trying to understand the collusion angle...especially in this situation.

Owner protects 40.   Says "I forgot to protect for the R5."   Buddy claims player and gives him back thus allowing owner to protect 41.