I managed to get 10 players I ranked.   My guess is the first 5 might make the BL while the other 5 will be career minor leaguers.  Nonetheless, since I said we'd all find a "comfort zone" without currents and fuzzier projections, I'm going to try to develop all 10 to see what we get for 10m.   The pitchers:
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Sammy Houston
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Ramiro Paez
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Melky Sanchez
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Mario Britton
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Ernest Albers
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: B.C. Martinez

Position players:
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Trace Wilkerson
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Randall Adams
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Kevin McClain
Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Wilson Thurman


Projections I saw:

				age	dur	stm	con	vl	vr	vel	gb	p1	p2	p3	p4	p5	ovr
Albers, Ernest	P	L	L	22	67	30	78	73	65	38	65	64	55	33	0	0	64
Britton, Mario	P	R	R	19	82	20	66	72	74	87	73	79	69	0	0	0	64
Houston, Sammy	P	L	L	21	32	75	87	80	75	51	34	85	75	65	54	32	77
Martinez, B.C.	P	R	R	20	74	35	52	71	69	35	38	70	51	40	0	0	61
Paez, Ramiro	P	R	R	20	12	74	60	63	73	89	41	87	75	50	0	0	64
Sanchez, Melky	P	S	R	20	28	85	49	65	70	31	58	95	67	51	38	0	66

				age	con	pow	vl	vr	eye	br	bnt	p/p	ovr
Wilkerson, Trace	RF	R	R	22	53	34	69	71	56	64	48	52	64
Adams, Randall	1B	R	R	19	29	42	73	28	65	75	41	21	57
McClain, Kevin	C	R	R	20	21	19	30	10	19	56	54	40	33
Thurman, Wilson	C	R	R	20	39	37	17	19	8	43	50	45	39

				age	rng	glv	as	aa	pxc	dur	hlth	spd	pat	tem	mu	ovr
Wilkerson, Trace	RF	R	R	22	61	53	61	67	11	79	41	68	64	28	50	64
Adams, Randall	1B	R	R	19	55	43	57	46	32	75	68	52	75	83	61	57
McClain, Kevin	C	R	R	20	18	31	79	78	80	54	78	9	65	31	44	33
Thurman, Wilson	C	R	R	20	8	28	77	73	74	66	36	37	47	19	90	39

I'll be tracking these guys for 4-5 seasons. 

Found a use for the watch list.

They all seem to be college players. Was your scouting money $10M in college and $0 in high school? And where did you have your Advance scouting at?

10/0/0 Coll/HS/ADV

Was that 10 Col above avg or below

League average was 8.

does it make any sense that you have $0 in advance scouting, but can only see projected ratings? Logically if you have $0 in advanced and $10 million in college scouting shouldn't you only be able to see current ratings and not projected ratings? Also, you'll never see aa scout say "I don't know what his ratings are now, but in the future he'll be...." That makes absolutely no sense.

Advance scouting - and Zero Advance - doesn't kick in until you get a player signed.

Using current ratings to draft is a loophole many of us low budget guys have used for years.  Loophole closed.

Posted by wylie715 on 6/10/2015 6:28:00 PM (view original):
does it make any sense that you have $0 in advance scouting, but can only see projected ratings? Logically if you have $0 in advanced and $10 million in college scouting shouldn't you only be able to see current ratings and not projected ratings? Also, you'll never see aa scout say "I don't know what his ratings are now, but in the future he'll be...." That makes absolutely no sense.

Quote post by joshkvt on 5/30/2015 8:09:00 PM:

But if you have $0 in advanced scouting, doesn't it make sense that your current projections would be more accurate then your future projections? A scout can see a player and know if his arm is good, if he has a good batting eye, if he can run the bases well, if he has decent range. None of that is affected by who he is playing, whether is St john's #3 starter of Clayton Kershaw. I know scouting is not infallible. otherwise Trout would have been the #1 pick overall instead of the 25th. I never said the data a scout supplies for current ability should be 100% accurate, but it should be more accurate than what a scouts future projections are no matter what your advanced scouting budget is.

You know what bugs me about every one of these threads turning into "why can't we see currents anymore?"

If WiS had made the game, from the beginning, that you could only see projections and not currents, wouldn't everyone have just played it that way from the start?

Would anyone have been able to make a case for "Hey!  This is wrong.  Show me the currents instead"?

It bugs me because EVERYONE should know why they did it.    But they just don't want to accept it. 

It's very similar to the "Even if I only put 4m into scouting, I should see the top 50.   Baseball America only costs $2 and they list the top 100!!!!" argument.

If you don't think you'll get a different level of accuracy judging hitting skills against St. John's #3 than against Kershaw ...

Again, the ONLY job of a scout is to estimate how a kid will perform against professional competition. Good base running in a high school game in Montana could be running into outs in pro ball. Or it might actually be good base running. That's the job of the scout. A RF who can gun down guys going to third in front of a 250-foot fence may or may not be able to gun down guys going for third in front of a fence at 330. A hitter who can lay off a 40 mph curveball from a pitcher whose FB comes in at 75 and take walks may or may not be able to lay off a 73 mph slider when he's also looking at a 92 mph FB.

You're confusing RL with WIS terms. All real scouts are Advance scouts, sending their best projections to the home office. HBD is not real life. No real team is going to have $0 in what we call Advance. Ever.

Removing Currents is an attempt to close a loophole allowing teams to run 0 ADV and still draft quality players. It is not saying MLB scouts really can't provide an accurate rating of a player's skill. Not only are you confusing HBD and RL, you are using a fallacious RL argument to do so.