has anyone here ever succeeded to any degree at a Hawaii team at division 2? Just how hard is it?
6/23/2015 9:01 PM
It's really easy
6/23/2015 10:59 PM
Heh.
6/23/2015 11:13 PM
titles have been won in Alaska, and Hawaii is easier, so I'm assuming it's been done
6/24/2015 1:50 AM
As I wrote you'd be alone. You need to find the best situation, it's either BYU Hawaii, Chaminade or Hawaii at Hilo. Now that I know Pepwaves and Emy are making Central Atlantic so tough, I hope you join us. We have solid coaches.
6/24/2015 9:01 AM
But are their enough recruits in HawAii to make competitive teams without being able to recruit anywhere else? IS there any thing else you can reach from Hawaii?
6/24/2015 9:38 AM
1. If your the only team you can own the island which will put a good player on your roster most years.  
2. Recruit internationals and the guys other guys look over.  
You are pretty much gifted at least 1 or 2 stars and if you scout well you should have solid rotation players. Just remember you may need unconventional players.  
Im not the best Hawaii coach but I thought recruiting to Oklahoma Panhandle St was harder than Chaminade.
Here's how I built my Chaminade program if you want a guideline (others that have coached at one of the Hawaii schools please chime in on if you have had any other successful strategies.  
 Year 1 (C prestige)
1. George Kraker-crappy pg to just get an extra body in the next class and to not lose a few $1000 by taking a walkon
2. Joseph Nguyen-defensive deficient but good PG for C prestige that mainland teams looked over
3. James Dotson-mainland SG specialist with obvious deficiencies but a good backup
4. Gerald Berends-decent juco that didnt take much money to grab
5. Arthur Parker-pretty good SF that no one wanted
6. Joseph Ratliff-super deficient player that can be allright as a role player
7. Raymond Alessi-good Hawaiian that I redshirted
8. Jimmie Bernard-well rounded but not spectacular big man

Year 2 (C- prestige)
1. Cedrick Brown-Still has a decent amount to develop.  Was an inelligible.  
2. Jack Rigsby-role player. Struggled to find the sf/pf hybrid we needed. 

Year 3 (C+ prestige)
1. Barry Moore-had to settle for a below average pg from Hawaii after running out of options 
2. Kenneth Thomas-Low starting values but will be pretty good.  Redshirted him 
3. Bryan Rothermel-Inelligible/transfer that still has a good deal of potential.  Potential all-american by sr/5 year. 
4. Charlie Puffinberger-Star that I would have had no shot at if I was in a region with more schools.  Lots of potential left. Another future potential all-american.

Sorry for the long post but pretty much if you are willing to accept a few lower level guys to be role players you can get some stars that you wouldnt be able to get otherwise.  Just be smart with your money.  I also wasnt able to recruit a couple good Hawaii guys that would be open to me as a B prestige so theres a decent deal of good Hawaiians.  
6/24/2015 10:30 AM
IMO, I struggle greatly at Hawaii. Some seasons Hawaii has great recruits and some seasons there is ****.  I'm the only one there so I do get pick of the litter, but depends what's available. I just now got up to B prestige and am able to get pulldowns from DI which helps. I do a lot more international recruits from Hawaii. some one taught me a few tricks, wait till after signings start and FSS some inland states and get best available. I think it's hard to assemble a real good team from just Hawaii recruits.  Here's my team: http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=14324
6/24/2015 10:46 AM

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