I know most of players do not put SH min on upperclassmen. My question is what about a Juco that has a below 3.0 and I'm redshirting him. Do any of you put any in for juco's?

not to start, only put sh in at midterms if necessary.

kinda what I thought thanks gill

Education comes first...success in the classroom is more important than success on the court

I agree with Coach Nate. Success on the court lasts only 1 season, but success in the classroom will last a lifetime!

Posted by Coach_Nate on 2/27/2016 10:54:00 PM (view original):
Education comes first...success in the classroom is more important than success on the court

you're talking about real life, In this game success on the court matters more than success in the classroom!

I know it's crazy and does not really matter, but I use 1 minute in study hall for everyone except walkons, even JR or SR. I could go to 0 for most JR and SR, but I don't.

I go lower in minutes than the calculations usually posted though. I do 6-7 minutes for a 2.8 Freshman (10 for a 2.5, 13 for a 2.1), and 5 or less for guys who are 3.0 or higher as freshmen. Then I adjust at the mid-term. My goal is 2.5 for freshmen. If at the mid-term they are above 2.7 then I drop a minute off, if above 3.0, drop 2 minutes, etc. Same thing for SO, JR, SR as far as dropping minutes .. I drop down a couple minutes at the mid terms for those guys too, but don't go lower than 1.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 2/29/2016 12:28:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Coach_Nate on 2/27/2016 10:54:00 PM (view original):
Education comes first...success in the classroom is more important than success on the court

you're talking about real life, In this game success on the court matters more than success in the classroom!

I believe what he posted would fall under the category of "Sarcasm". Good to see your priorities are straight though!

I know that it's to each their own, but I think most coaches use way too many minutes on Study Hall, especially after the mid-terms come out. I can't remember the last time I had a kid fail when I was actually paying attention to grades. But......with the way potential is set up now, coaches probably can err on the side of caution and give more minutes than are necessary simply because anyone with a decent Work Ethic will almost certainly be maxed out by his senior year anyway.

FWIW, switching gears for just a second, I agree 100% with Oldresorter about practice planning and the options for coaches to mild players how "they" wanted them to look, not some predetermined set of numbers based on potentials. A coach who was a good practice planner "back in the day" had a decided advantage over coaches who were not. Now that practice planning is spoon fed to us, all it did was take a bunch of decisions for each individual coach out of the game. Potential is fine I suppose, I mean I'm used to it now. But it goes against the very concept of "What If..."?

Besides, the game already HAD potential, it just wasn't labeled that way. The old coaches will remember this and I'm not being exact with my numbers so bear with me. If a players rating in a category was between 0-15 or so and on the other end 85-100, those categories would improve very slowly, hence...........get ready for it.......LOW POTENTIAL!!! Somewhere between say 16-30 and 70-84 improved at a moderate rate, hence...........get ready again.......AVERAGE POTENTIAL!!! Between 31-69 or so, very quick improvement, hence...yep, you guessed it...HIGH POTENTIAL!!!

Like I said, the only problem was that it wasn't "labeled" like that, so most coaches didn't grasp the concept. But we had potential before AND we could shape and mold players much better to fit needs on each individual team, and the great thing was....we didn't have some stupid artificial cap telling us that our player couldn't improve past that point. Not to mention the unintended consequence of making recruiting even MORE crucial to having a good team. Rant over. Get off my lawn youngsters. And have a nice day!

but in the old days, anyone who knew what they were doing and had the right budget and prestige could create a roster full of key ratings in the 90s