Another round of 'who would you pick'? Topic

18 million HS scouting
18 million college scouting.

10th overall pick.

Don't think I'm going to get number 1 or 2 on my draft board. I'm thinking I'll get who I rank 3rd (just a feeling I have.)

Contestant #1

21 years old. Right handed.

Contact power VsL VsR Eye Baserunning Range glove arm accuracy
73. 71. 79. 81. 66. 79. 90. 97. 73. 76

Contestant #2
20 year old Left handed.

Contact power VsL VsR Eye Baserunning Range glove arm accuracy
85. 59. 61. 100. 86. 90. 70. 46. 67. 59.
4/20/2016 10:57 PM
I'd take the GG 2B with a bit more pop over the OBP machine RF with sub optimal power.
4/21/2016 12:13 AM
This isn't even interesting. #1, unless his projected stamina is 34 or health is 2 or something like that.

Frankly, if your scouts saw 2 guys better than #1, it's either an insanely good draft pool, or it's no coincidence that your scouts sent you their reports on 4/20. And I can't imagine #1 will drop to you at 10 if you haven't grossly overrated him.
4/21/2016 10:07 AM
My scouts are saying its a really good pool. Right now I have #1, and #2 ranked as this.

Both are 18 year old right handed.

Contact power VsL VsR Eye Baserunning Range glove arm accuracy
100. 50. 89. 82. 94. 59. 80. 93. 68. 59.
91. 33. 79 100. 97. 70. 84. 79. 50. 53.


This isn't even counting the pitching prospects which look very good but I don't want as bad as a position player.

Either 18 million doesn't buy much anymore or this is going to be a very very very good draft.
4/21/2016 10:15 AM
I'm not sure 18-20 scouting is as reliable anymore. I had 20 scouting in my most recent draft and I got my #2 and #4 choice at the 12th and 39thpick.. They were projected as a 86 & 84 OVR.. The guy from the 39th pick has signed now and there is little to no chance he gets to the projections I viewed with 20 scouting.
4/21/2016 2:49 PM
Wow.

See, this is why there is a contest between the two guys I posted for my 3rd overall rank. If I could make sure that the two guys would hit their projections or even be off by 5-8 for their projections, I would pick guy #1 no problem. It would be a clear cut decision.

But, this is not the case anymore. Realistically I know it is very unlikely for a guy to hit 100 VsR let alone having 3 of the guys I have ranked in the top 4 hitting 100 ratings in important categories.

But lets say the two guys I am trying to decide on for my 3rd spot lose 20 points for each category (worst case scenario)
If that were to happen, I feel like guy #2 would still be able to hit between .280 and .300 consistently, while guy #1 would probably be a bench player who would be a defensive replacement.

I really wish I had a type B pick in this years draft......... course I say that every year.
4/21/2016 3:01 PM
I ignore overall ratings just because, even at 20 scouting, it seems like durability (which I believe is more heavily weighted in OVR than the other ratings) is one of the most unreliable ratings for scouting. Which is extremely frustrating when drafting pitchers.
4/21/2016 3:50 PM
A likely contrarian here:
As stated, Durability would be a factor to include. A guy with 70 Durability isn't nearly as interesting as a guy with 85, for example. A high Makeup helps, of course.
Also interested in Speed, but since I know Base Running it isn't as important.
But if those #'s are dead on accurate and if #2 has the Durability advantage, I might take him.; likely would The 12 Pt difference in Power pales in comparison to the (combined) 39 pt difference in vR/Eye.
#2 will have multiple years with an OBP of .400+. But since we're just looking at projections, I would assume that both Glove and Range for #1 drop some, as will vR for #2. The question is how much will they drop. I have found Range/Glove estimates to be quite shaky over the last two drafts.
#1 is an .840 OPS type of guy during a good season. With a GG CF/2B glove he's pretty cool. But a left hand bat (which is important) with Contact of 85, vR of 100 and Eye of 86 is pretty special!
My guy, Mateo Trajano https://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerRatings.aspx?pid=4977184 had Glove numbers of 81-82-80-84 and a RH bat of 86-49-78-81-67, with good speed His career batting #'s are .287-.347-.427: Figure your guy hits a bit less for average and with a bit more pop. Even with the same average, he's .287-.347-.465.
Your mileage may vary.
4/22/2016 5:56 PM
I'm actually big into small ball with good D so speed is important to me. Durability is pretty comparable with both.

Guy 1- speed - 62 Dur - 86 makeup - 85
Guy 2 - speed - 53 Dur - 86. Makeup - 65

Only reason i didn't add them. Kinda splitting hairs.
4/23/2016 8:47 AM
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