Depth Chart Question Topic

I keep second guessing my depth chart with my Bloomfield squad, specifically the PG position and/or what to do with Robert Boyd.
My usual depth chart is something like:
PG: Difranco, Boyd
SG: Casados, Anaya
SF: Rouse, Damore

From a SP/BH/P perspective Difranco is the best pure PG on the team. But, Boyd is better from and ath/def perspective and I feel like I'm wasting him by bringing him off of the bench. An alternative depth chart could be:

PG: Difranco, Anaya
SG: Casados, Damore (P kind of sucks for the 2)
SF: Boyd, Rouse

I like the idea of getting Rouse's REB into the starting lineup but it's not an idea I'm married to.

I think the 2nd depth chart gives me better overall starters but definitely weakens my backups (and maybe this is what I go with if I know I'm gonna run slowdown?). Should I stick with the first depth chart listed? Should I make Boyd a supersub at the 1, 2, and 3 to maximize his minutes?

It's a good problem to have, no doubt about that. I've lost a few games this year that have me scratching my head and thought maybe there was a depth chart tweak I'm missing that could make us better. Thanks in advance!
8/4/2016 8:55 AM
PG: DiFranco/Boyd/Anaya/blank
SG: Casados/Zagorski/Boyd/Anaya
SF: Rouse/Damore


Boyd isn't much of a scorer. Efficient type tertiary scorer. DiFranco and Casados are the 1-2 offense punch, keep them starting together. Zagorski is only 1/3 IQ behind Anaya, and is a better offensive threat. Use him as backup SG along with Boyd at backup PG. Boyd's passing is a little weak, but after DiFranco (who isn't elite at pas) that could be said about everyone. Boyd has the IQ and spd/def/bh to run the backup point and should sub in before Zagorski but both sub out around the same time in normal operations (given Casados' 10 pt STA > DiFranco and Boyd +5 STA > Zagorski), then the starters can come back on together mostly...

Boyd's solid, and if you face someone with a single dominant scorer maybe you start him facing that guy as your best man defender, but not if the negative of him at starting guard over either DiFranco and/or Casados are mitigated...otherwise he is a great backup and could anchor the 2nd unit.

I would seriously boost DiFranco's distro. He should be your number 1 or 2 scorer at worst; and let Casados take some 3s so that there is another outside threat besides DiFranco.
8/4/2016 10:10 AM
As a new player, don't place any value on what I have to say, as I'm posting this more for my own education than anything, but why not move Casados to SF? You could then start Boyd and Difranco, swapping at PG/SG based on matchups? I also agree Zagorski would be a good #2 SG, but he's red-shirted (BTW, was labeling all of the guards at PG how you convinced him to redshirt?).

PG: Boyd/Anaya
SG: Difranco/Damore
SF: Casados/Rouse
8/4/2016 12:28 PM
Posted by dacj501 on 8/4/2016 10:10:00 AM (view original):
PG: DiFranco/Boyd/Anaya/blank
SG: Casados/Zagorski/Boyd/Anaya
SF: Rouse/Damore


Boyd isn't much of a scorer. Efficient type tertiary scorer. DiFranco and Casados are the 1-2 offense punch, keep them starting together. Zagorski is only 1/3 IQ behind Anaya, and is a better offensive threat. Use him as backup SG along with Boyd at backup PG. Boyd's passing is a little weak, but after DiFranco (who isn't elite at pas) that could be said about everyone. Boyd has the IQ and spd/def/bh to run the backup point and should sub in before Zagorski but both sub out around the same time in normal operations (given Casados' 10 pt STA > DiFranco and Boyd +5 STA > Zagorski), then the starters can come back on together mostly...

Boyd's solid, and if you face someone with a single dominant scorer maybe you start him facing that guy as your best man defender, but not if the negative of him at starting guard over either DiFranco and/or Casados are mitigated...otherwise he is a great backup and could anchor the 2nd unit.

I would seriously boost DiFranco's distro. He should be your number 1 or 2 scorer at worst; and let Casados take some 3s so that there is another outside threat besides DiFranco.
What? Boyd isn't a scorer with 97 BH and 88 Ath? That dude is a great slasher. Maybe I'm dead wrong, if so please tell me why.

Edit: 11 points on 49% shooting seems pretty good.
8/4/2016 1:16 PM
As your opponent I think I would be happy if you didn't spot Boyd opposite my main scoring threat at G or SF. If you maximize your application of Boyd's defensive prowess -- skills and A+ IQ -- it still leaves you plenty of combinations on offense. And I agree with cub that he might even help your inside scoring, which otherwise is almost limited to two guys. Just another two cents.
8/4/2016 3:05 PM
Good stuff there, Dac. I rotated Difranco and Boyd back and forth as the starting PG-I should probably dig into what their stats are as starters vs backups (obviously makes a difference if those guys are mostly playing against starters or backups as well). I just got lazy this season with paying close attention to things. But you're absolutely correct in that Difranco is the better offensive option and helps legitimize my perimeter scoring.

Zagorski is red shirted, so Anaya is backing up the 2 regardless.
8/4/2016 8:04 PM
Posted by gdog13cavs on 8/4/2016 12:28:00 PM (view original):
As a new player, don't place any value on what I have to say, as I'm posting this more for my own education than anything, but why not move Casados to SF? You could then start Boyd and Difranco, swapping at PG/SG based on matchups? I also agree Zagorski would be a good #2 SG, but he's red-shirted (BTW, was labeling all of the guards at PG how you convinced him to redshirt?).

PG: Boyd/Anaya
SG: Difranco/Damore
SF: Casados/Rouse
If I started both Boyd and Difranco then Difranco would be at the point (much better passing). The only concern I have about all three starting at once is that weakens the 2nd stringers immensely. There's always the option to set one of them to "getting tired" to keep them on the floor with the 2nd unit more but foul trouble could really throw this rotation out of whack. Damore's SP and P are a concern at the 2 as well.

As for Zagorski, I got lucky in that he took the R/S before the season started. I didn't change positions of any players (I never remember to do this); on most of my teams you'll see far more PGs than SGs. You can R/S sophomores more often than you'd think, though I haven't had any luck in redshirting a ranked D1 player with my D2 team (unless I inform prior of R/S prior to signings). And Zagorski taking the R/S was pretty huge because I forgot to undo Henderson's start before signings, which basically meant Zagorski wouldn't have seen the court at all this season.
8/4/2016 8:08 PM
Cubcub-Boyd has done what I'd expect him to do this season, which is lead my team in FTA's as a slasher-type of player. I think Dac meant he doesn't have elite offensive skills in that his PER and/or LP aren't very good. He would be shooting more than 49% if I didn't have the #1 SOS but knowing we'd be good this season I scheduled hard intentionally.
8/4/2016 8:11 PM
Posted by darnoc29099 on 8/4/2016 8:11:00 PM (view original):
Cubcub-Boyd has done what I'd expect him to do this season, which is lead my team in FTA's as a slasher-type of player. I think Dac meant he doesn't have elite offensive skills in that his PER and/or LP aren't very good. He would be shooting more than 49% if I didn't have the #1 SOS but knowing we'd be good this season I scheduled hard intentionally.
thanks
8/4/2016 8:25 PM
Posted by darnoc29099 on 8/4/2016 8:55:00 AM (view original):
I keep second guessing my depth chart with my Bloomfield squad, specifically the PG position and/or what to do with Robert Boyd.
My usual depth chart is something like:
PG: Difranco, Boyd
SG: Casados, Anaya
SF: Rouse, Damore

From a SP/BH/P perspective Difranco is the best pure PG on the team. But, Boyd is better from and ath/def perspective and I feel like I'm wasting him by bringing him off of the bench. An alternative depth chart could be:

PG: Difranco, Anaya
SG: Casados, Damore (P kind of sucks for the 2)
SF: Boyd, Rouse

I like the idea of getting Rouse's REB into the starting lineup but it's not an idea I'm married to.

I think the 2nd depth chart gives me better overall starters but definitely weakens my backups (and maybe this is what I go with if I know I'm gonna run slowdown?). Should I stick with the first depth chart listed? Should I make Boyd a supersub at the 1, 2, and 3 to maximize his minutes?

It's a good problem to have, no doubt about that. I've lost a few games this year that have me scratching my head and thought maybe there was a depth chart tweak I'm missing that could make us better. Thanks in advance!
Pg: Boyd, Difiranco (depends on how your team is set up for but in my view Boyd is the better point gaurd here)
Sg: Stay the same
Sf: Keep Rouse starting, I would put Manchu Xue here if he isn't starting

Alternative lineup:
Pg: Difranco, Boyd
Sg: Casados, Boyd
Sf Rouse, Boyd
8/4/2016 10:09 PM
Posted by darnoc29099 on 8/4/2016 8:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by gdog13cavs on 8/4/2016 12:28:00 PM (view original):
As a new player, don't place any value on what I have to say, as I'm posting this more for my own education than anything, but why not move Casados to SF? You could then start Boyd and Difranco, swapping at PG/SG based on matchups? I also agree Zagorski would be a good #2 SG, but he's red-shirted (BTW, was labeling all of the guards at PG how you convinced him to redshirt?).

PG: Boyd/Anaya
SG: Difranco/Damore
SF: Casados/Rouse
If I started both Boyd and Difranco then Difranco would be at the point (much better passing). The only concern I have about all three starting at once is that weakens the 2nd stringers immensely. There's always the option to set one of them to "getting tired" to keep them on the floor with the 2nd unit more but foul trouble could really throw this rotation out of whack. Damore's SP and P are a concern at the 2 as well.

As for Zagorski, I got lucky in that he took the R/S before the season started. I didn't change positions of any players (I never remember to do this); on most of my teams you'll see far more PGs than SGs. You can R/S sophomores more often than you'd think, though I haven't had any luck in redshirting a ranked D1 player with my D2 team (unless I inform prior of R/S prior to signings). And Zagorski taking the R/S was pretty huge because I forgot to undo Henderson's start before signings, which basically meant Zagorski wouldn't have seen the court at all this season.
Thanks for the info.
8/4/2016 10:19 PM
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