I sent this in as a ticket, and Whatif says they are looking into it, but curious about what you all think. In Iba, I have a mid major team. We had a player who was a top ten at his position recruit. He just graduated and was not drafted. He had 862 as his final rating and I did see players in the 800's drafted. Here are his credentials:
1st Team All American: 2 times
1st Team All Conference: 4 times
Conference player of the year: 3 times
He led a mid major to four straight ncaa tournaments. He was never on the big board. How is this still possible? Again, if this was real life, which I think the game tries to mirror, any scout from a professional team without him on the rader would be fired immediately. Wondering what other people have experienced with this.

Key ratings just aren't high enough. 77-69-89 ATH/SPD/DEF isn't commonly going to get you drafted, unless you have elite ratings (95+) in the per/BH or REB/LP combos. Normalize work ethic and durability, and he barely scratches 800. IRL, he's a great college player, who may find a pro career in Turkey or New Zealand.

I hear he got an awesome deal to play in China Who needs the NBA with the kinda money he got!

But these kind of guys do get drafted and then fizzle out many times

It wouldn't have shocked me if he was drafted at the end of the 2nd round, but I wouldn't expect it. Sometimes they get drafted in real life, and sometimes they don't. The only reason it matters is pride, and a small - in the case of a late 2nd rounder, very small - prestige bump. NBA scouts in real life will usually pick talent and projectability over stats, especially at mid-major levels. Your guy is going to have to try out like every other working stiff trying to latch on.

How about this season. I have a guy with these credentials and he is not even on the big board:

914 rating and 8th rated PF his recruiting year
Freshman year: Conference Freshman of the year and Honorable Mention
Soph and jr years: 1st team all conference
Sr year: 1st team all american, 1st team all conference, player of the year for the conference and defensive player of the year for the conference.

averaging 17.8 pts and 8.2 boards

No way he isnt on a draft board, especially when you look at far worse players at his position on the Board. Whatif's response to the ticket was not an explanation nor was it an admitting a potential error in the system.

Posted by msstrauss on 5/8/2017 5:35:00 PM (view original):
How about this season. I have a guy with these credentials and he is not even on the big board:

914 rating and 8th rated PF his recruiting year
Freshman year: Conference Freshman of the year and Honorable Mention
Soph and jr years: 1st team all conference
Sr year: 1st team all american, 1st team all conference, player of the year for the conference and defensive player of the year for the conference.

averaging 17.8 pts and 8.2 boards

No way he isnt on a draft board, especially when you look at far worse players at his position on the Board. Whatif's response to the ticket was not an explanation nor was it an admitting a potential error in the system.

The draft formula/big board values ATH very highly, especially for post players, so Richard Hensley's 78 ATH as a PF is a big negative, I think he could end up getting drafted towards the end of the 2nd round since players who are not on the big board do get drafted at times. I think it's debatable whether or not individual awards affect draft status, and same for individual stats. All of this is my opinion on the formula behind the draft/big board from watching it over many seasons, not my personal opinion on the caliber of Richard Hensley, who has clearly been great for you.

I just think his credentials seriously outweigh players at his position on the big board, but whatif doesn't care....the respond was basically that they are happy with how it is working.

Posted by msstrauss on 5/9/2017 9:14:00 AM (view original):
I just think his credentials seriously outweigh players at his position on the big board, but whatif doesn't care....the respond was basically that they are happy with how it is working.

I wish they cared enough to add one more layer to the game, and that is a Pro-League Level in each World!

that would be great

It is my impression that All American has little or no effect

The draft works off WIS's view of the weight of the ratings - thats just the way it goes.

I think the big board formula is very different from how the draft works in real life. They REALLY undervalue freshmen in the high end of the draft relative to how real life works, which probably makes the draft work better.

If we are looking at upperclassmen drafted in the top 10 of the past actual NBA drafts, we get:
2016: 5 freshmen, 3 upperclassmen, 2 international
2015: 5 freshmen, 2 upperclassmen, 3 international
2014: 6 freshmen, 3 upperclassmen, 1 international
2013: 3 freshmen, 7 upperclassmen, 0 international
2012: 5 freshmen, 5 upperclassmen, 0 international
This years draft big board obviously varies by site, but id bet that most of them have a very similar top 9 in Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum, Isaac, Monk, Smith, Fox, Ntilikina which are 8 freshmen and 1 international

vs WIS where the highest freshman in my worlds are:
29 in tarkanian
there are none in the top 100 in Rupp
44 in Crum
38 in Allen

With the EE *ahem* issues, i can see why the value of freshmen is so low on the draft board just for making the game work... but conceptually its an interesting thought to picture how the game would change if they made it actually like real life where the top 10 prospects are all EE's

freshmen have another problem in WIS - they arrive with terrible hoops IQ

in real life, some - not many - freshmen arrive with very good hoops IQ