Triangle/Man team

player 1
- 99 Stamina
- 78 Ath
- 65 spd
- 70 DE
- 80+ PE
- 75 BH
- 60 P
-Black C+ FT
- 64 WE
player 2
- 85 Stamina
- 85 ATH
- 61 Spd
- 80 DE
- 72+ PE
- 90 BH
- 50 P
- Green C- FT
- 30 WE

These are all max potentials, both guys need about 140 points of growth to reach these numbers so WE is somewhat important.

Easy choice. Player 2. You forgot the LP and Rebounding rating.

You should also list the starting potential. Blacks and greens potentially have more room for growth, where red, yellow and blue not as much.

Posted by thewizard17 on 1/1/2018 4:10:00 AM (view original):
Easy choice. Player 2. You forgot the LP and Rebounding rating.

You should also list the starting potential. Blacks and greens potentially have more room for growth, where red, yellow and blue not as much.

Green is high high. Blue is high growth (not "not as much"). Black standard. You're correct with red and yellow (or orange. People say both).

Yeah sorry, I didn’t include the LP and rebounding ratings because they are all 1 with yellow or red.


http://imgur.com/1MGEBS5

the missing P ratings are 50 black and 38 black.

I should have just done that in the first place.

Player 2 not even close.

Posted by cubcub113 on 1/1/2018 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Player 2 not even close.

I'm not questioning YOU. I want more understanding for myself. What is it that makes player 2 "that" much better in triangle/man?

These are some of the types of things i come across that i need to understand better. I would assume the 90 BH and 80 DEF. But i thought passing and perimeter was big needs in the triangle as well

Also the WE issue in this example seems to be important

Posted by topdogggbm on 1/1/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 1/1/2018 2:27:00 PM (view original):
Player 2 not even close.

I'm not questioning YOU. I want more understanding for myself. What is it that makes player 2 "that" much better in triangle/man?

These are some of the types of things i come across that i need to understand better. I would assume the 90 BH and 80 DEF. But i thought passing and perimeter was big needs in the triangle as well

Also the WE issue in this example seems to be important

I would like to know the reasoning as well for it not even being close.

the stamina would also be an added bonus for player 1.

I think at the end, player 3 is better because of the ath/def advantage AND the perimeter difference may end up being less than 8 points.

with that being said, player 1 will likely be a better, faster. The WE difference is really significant.

i don’t think it’s an easy choice.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 1/1/2018 8:39:00 PM (view original):
I think at the end, player 3 is better because of the ath/def advantage AND the perimeter difference may end up being less than 8 points.

with that being said, player 1 will likely be a better, faster. The WE difference is really significant.

i don’t think it’s an easy choice.

Assuming you meant player 2, i can see that. I just didn't see an easy choice. And with the PER, it could end up 80 for player 1 and 100 for player 2. Or also 100 for player 1 and 72 for player 2. Wide variation there.

Although i don't think the focus of this is on the perimeter at all. Just sayin.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 1/1/2018 8:39:00 PM (view original):
I think at the end, player 3 is better because of the ath/def advantage AND the perimeter difference may end up being less than 8 points.

with that being said, player 1 will likely be a better, faster. The WE difference is really significant.

i don’t think it’s an easy choice.

Agree with the WE difference it's closer than I originally said, but Player two has better Ath De Bh, worse Pa, and comparable Per and Sp. The question is for a SG, so the possibility of 85 ath 100 per 100 bh seems pretty damn tempting.

I would be after player 2 - better Ath/Def/BH and could end up with really high perimeter. I would rather take the gamble on the perimeter knowing the Ath and Def were set in stone. If you can start him early his WE will shoot right up.

Be realistic about your projections. Player 1 will hit those projections without starting him at all in the next two years, and will likely start his jr season pretty close. Player 2 will need starts and we boosts to get there, and it will take longer. You will also need to sacrifice other attributes in order to maximize per and FT. With 30 WE, you can’t have it all.

Player 2 does have a defensive advantage, and though player 1 will hold his own just fine, it’s not insignificant. Player 1 has a bigger offensive advantage though, IMO. Triangle emphasizes shooting (and passing, IMO) over ball handling and playmaking. The difference between 85 and 78 ath for non-LP shooting guards in triangle is negligible. Likewise, triangle isn’t going to feature player 2’s elite BH. On the other hand, if we can assume the per rating of both players is green, player 1 is currently sitting at 53, with a 64 WE. Player 2 is currently sitting at 45 with a 30 WE. With reasonable minutes investment, say 10-12 minutes per practice, player 1 is guaranteed to be an upper 70s outside threat by the end of his sophomore season. Player 2 will still probably be in the low 60s, unless you get him starts to boost WE, AND he happens to be high VH, which you have no way of knowing now. And his weak passing for a triangle guard will hurt, especially if you’re starting him to boost WE.

Player 2 will be a fine defensive guard, with scoring potential you might be able to use by his senior year. Player 1 will develop faster, and will be a more sure bet offensively. He’ll also be an adequate defender, though not as good as player 2. It’s not a slam dunk. To me, it depends on your priorities, your team, and whether you need the outside scoring sooner than 3 years from now.

Posted by topdogggbm on 1/1/2018 9:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 1/1/2018 8:39:00 PM (view original):
I think at the end, player 3 is better because of the ath/def advantage AND the perimeter difference may end up being less than 8 points.

with that being said, player 1 will likely be a better, faster. The WE difference is really significant.

i don’t think it’s an easy choice.

Assuming you meant player 2, i can see that. I just didn't see an easy choice. And with the PER, it could end up 80 for player 1 and 100 for player 2. Or also 100 for player 1 and 72 for player 2. Wide variation there.

Although i don't think the focus of this is on the perimeter at all. Just sayin.

If you want him to score, PERIMETER is always important.

Wish I could have both.

IMO, they are both potential starters on a NC caliber team. They are a little slow but those guys + 20 speed are recruited by D1 humans.