Rule V Leg #62 Draft Thread Topic

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Originally created many moons ago by examinerebb, this league makes any franchise a contender (the Rangers won the most recent world series), and a better group of owners can't be found on the site. There is much good natured banter in the draft thread and the league chat, so bring your sense of humor. The rules are simple:

1. Each owner chooses a franchise. Franchise draft order is in inverse order of win percentage from the previous season for non-playoff teams, then inverse order of win percentage of non-World Series playoff teams, with the WS runner-up picking 23rd, and the WS champ choosing last. New owners will be assigned the draft position of any previous owners who are not returning, with the first to sign up receiving the highest slot, and so on. Division alignment will be determined by the commissioner after team selection is complete. We will attempt to keep divisions as close to real life as possible. Geography will be the first factor, but we will also attempt to maintain traditional rivalries if possible.

2. Each owner chooses five players he/she wishes to protect from that franchise (1969-present) and submits that list via sitemail to me. Those players are the exclusive property of their respective owners.

3. After all lists are submitted, they will be posted and a three round modified Rule V draft will be held, with draft order being inverse order of each franchise's Rule V win percentage through all legs from which we have data (the worst teams pick first). Many thanks to schwarze for compiling this data. Each owner selects one unprotected player from any active franchise but their own (player seasons for franchises that were not chosen are not eligible). That player is also theirs exclusively. No more than two players may be taken from any one franchise in any one round.

4. At the end of the first and second rounds, each owner will choose an additional player they wish to protect. You will end up protecting seven in all, while drafting three. These ten players must appear on your roster. The rest of the roster is filled by players from your franchise during the given time period (1969-present day).

$120 Million Cap
No trades
No WW
No DH
No AAA

No clones (same player, same franchise - if a player played for more than one franchise, he is available once for each franchise).
If a player split time between multiple teams in a season (as listed at WIS) his full season is available once for each team
SLL limited to current series.
Stadium must have been used by your franchise for at least one full season between 1969 and present.
Tiebreaker for draft positions will be run differential from the previous season, worse differential picks first.

For those new to the Rule V fold:

There is much good-natured ribbing during the draft (we try not to be too player-specific, so as not to influence the draft, but sometimes the temptation is too much). Do not take it personally. Pick a draft strategy and stay the course, regardless.

Glossary

He Who Must Not Be Named (HWMNBN) - A former player/manager/dirtbag for the Cincinnati Reds (and later, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos) who defiled the grand game of baseball. No Rule V team has ever won a title with him, so heed jose's warnings about karma. I would imagine Lady Karma grows weary from teaching the same lesson over and over, as the ruler with which she raps offending knuckles seems to grow with each passing season. The scumbag finally won a couple of championships. Lady Karma has stunned us all with this development

The Single Most Overrated Pitcher of All Time (TSMOPOAT) - Nolan Ryan

The Single Most Overrated Position Player of All Time (TSMOPPOAT) - Cal Ripken, Jr.

(Both of those players designated by Vegas...see below)

Vegas - jose can u c - Our Rule V Prediction King (emeritus)

Newest Entry: Alleyviper's Favorite Third Baseman of All Time (AFTBOAT) - Scott Rolen (has picked him in at least five TEN drafts)
1/25/2019 7:13 AM (edited)
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Player Draft Order - Franchises selected are in RED.
Rank Franchise Years _Wins_ Losses Wining%
1 Rays 11 708 1074 0.3973
2 D'backs 22 1605 1959 0.4503
3 Tigers 33 2530 2818 0.4731
4 White Sox 16 1235 1357 0.4765
5 Pirates 29 2243 2455 0.4774
6 Rockies 17 1328 1426 0.4822
7 Angels 25 1963 2087 0.4847
8 Twins 33 2606 2742 0.4873
9 Rangers 26 2053 2160 0.4873
10 Brewers 30 2378 2485 0.4890
11 Orioles 35 2796 2875 0.4930
12 Marlins 27 2162 2214 0.4941
13 Expos 42 3389 3418 0.4979
14 Blue Jays 39 3154 3166 0.4991
15 Indians 41 3323 3320 0.5002
16 Mariners 40 3245 3237 0.5006
17 Red Sox 43 3494 3473 0.5015
18 Padres 32 2602 2583 0.5018
19 Phillies 40 3276 3207 0.5053
20 Reds 35 2866 2805 0.5054
21 Royals 38 3128 3031 0.5079
22 Cubs 34 2805 2703 0.5093
23 Mets 38 3144 3013 0.5106
24 Braves 42 3488 3316 0.5126
25 Giants 40 3334 3149 0.5143
26 Cardinals 43 3612 3355 0.5184
27 Yankees 39 3298 3020 0.5220
28 Dodgers 42 3593 3213 0.5279
29 A's 43 3698 3270 0.5307
30 Astros 42 3697 3108 0.5433
1/15/2019 5:23 AM (edited)
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Franchise draft order (timed schedule begins MONDAY 1/14)
  1. spoonfed 60-102 .370 Detroit Tigers*
  2. goodbeef 64-98 .395 Pittsburgh Pirates*
  3. mussopini23 67-95 .401 Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals*
  4. tridentric 69-93 .426 Boston Red Sox*
  5. nordawg 69-93 .426* Arizona Diamondbacks
  6. Lincoln15 75-87 .463 Oakland Athletics*
  7. trenchfoot 75-87 .463* Los Angeles Angels*
  8. DoctorKz 76-86 .469 Minnesota Twins*
  9. alleyviper 78-84 .481 New York Mets*
  10. shaybee 79-83 .487 Los Angeles Dodgers*
  11. rbow923 81-81 .500 Houston Astros*
  12. buddhagamer 83-79 .512 New York Yankees*
  13. sinfonian11 83-79 .512 Milwaukee Brewers*
  14. newarkwilder 83-79 .512 Atlanta Braves*
  15. specsman 85-77 .525 St. Louis Cardinals*
  16. pumpkinmcp 85-77 .525 Tampa Bay Rays*
  17. sakensei 87-75 .537*^ Seattle Mariners*
  18. captmurphy 87-75 .537^ Cincinnati Reds*
  19. justinlee_24 91-71 .562^ Cleveland Indians*
  20. bob_shabazz 92-70 .568^ Baltimore Orioles*
  21. ff09 93-69 .574^ Philadelphia Phillies*
  22. Chisock 93-69 .574^ Toronto Blue Jays*
  23. atheistdeals 99-63 .611*# Kansas City Royals*
  24. dilligafdbp 90-72 .556$ Chicago White Sox*
* new owner
^ playoff team
# WS runner-up
$ WS champion

* Third round keeper sent

Owner list for sitemailing: sinfonian11; buddhagamer; good_beef; justinlee_24; spoonfed; Chisock; specsman; dilligafdbp; DoctorKz; Lincoln15; ff09; captmurphy; newarkwilder; mussopini23; bob_shabazz; shaybee; rbow923; alleyviper; pumpkinmcp; tridentric; nordawg; trenchfoot; sakensei; atheistdeals

NL East
Atlanta Braves
New York Mets
Montreal Expos
Philadelphia Phillies

NL Central
St. Louis Cardinals
Milwaukee Brewers
Tampa Bay Rays
Pittsburgh Pirates

NL West
Los Angeles Dodgers
Arizona Diamondbacks
Houston Astros
Cincinnati Reds

AL East
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays

AL Central
Cleveland Indians
Minnesota Twins
Chicago White Sox
Detroit Tigers

AL West
Oakland A’s
Seattle Mariners
Los Angeles Angels
Kansas City Royals
1/22/2019 3:20 PM (edited)
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Player Draft First Round (timed schedule starts WEDNESDAY 1/16)
  1. pumpkinmcp - Tampa Bay Rays Mark McGwire - STL
  2. nordawg - Arizona Diamondbacks Pedro Martinez - NYM
  3. spoonfed - Detroit Tigers Chris Sale - BOS
  4. dilligafdbp - Chicago White Sox Justin Verlander - HOU
  5. good_beef - Pittsburgh Pirates Bob Gibson - STL (Cardinals off the board)
  6. trenchfoot - Los Angeles Angels Rico Petrocelli - BOS (Red Sox off the board)
  7. DoctorKz - Minnesota Twins Kevin Brown - LAD
  8. sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers Adrian Beltre - LAD (Dodgers off the board)
  9. bob_shabazz - Baltimore Orioles Jeff Bagwell - HOU (Orioles off the board)
  10. mussopini23 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals Barry Larkin - CIN
  11. Chisock - Toronto Blue Jays Willie Stargell - PIT
  12. justinlee_24 - Cleveland Indians Jason Giambi - OAK
  13. sakensei - Seattle Mariners Kevin Millwood - ATL
  14. tridentric - Boston Red Sox Mariano Rivera - NYY
  15. ff09 - Philadelphia Phillies Rickey Henderson - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  16. captmurphy - Cincinnati Reds Jim Thome - CLE
  17. atheistdeals - Kansas City Royals Carlos Delgado - TOR
  18. alleyviper - New York Mets Ryan Howard - PHI
  19. newarkwilder - Atlanta Braves TSMOPPOAT - BAL
  20. specsman - St. Louis Cardinals Andrew McCutchen - PIT (Pirates off the board)
  21. buddhagamer - New York Yankees HWMNBN - CIN (Reds off the board)
  22. shaybee - Los Angeles Dodgers Mark Eichhorn - TOR (Blue Jays off the board)
  23. Lincoln15 - Oakland Athletics Cecil Cooper - MIL
  24. rbow923 - Houston Astros Jose Reyes - NYM (Mets off the board)
Player Draft Second Round (timed schedule starts MONDAY 1/21)
  1. pumpkinmcp - Tampa Bay Rays JR Richard - HOU
  2. nordawg - Arizona Diamondbacks Bernie Williams - NYY
  3. spoonfed - Detroit Tigers Roger Nelson - KCR
  4. dilligafdbp - Chicago White Sox Don Wilson - HOU (Astros off the board)
  5. good_beef - Pittsburgh Pirates Andy Messersmith - LAD
  6. trenchfoot - Los Angeles Angels Reggie Jackson - OAK
  7. DoctorKz - Minnesota Twins Nomar Garciaparra - BOS
  8. sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers Hideo Nomo - LAD (Dodgers off the board)
  9. bob_shabazz - Baltimore Orioles Fred Lynn - BOS (Red Sox off the board)
  10. mussopini23 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals John Olerud - NYM
  11. Chisock - Toronto Blue Jays Ted Simmons - STL
  12. justinlee_24 - Cleveland Indians Rick Reuschel - PIT
  13. sakensei - Seattle Mariners Darrell Evans - ATL
  14. tridentric - Boston Red Sox Craig Kimbrel - ATL (Braves off the board)
  15. ff09 - Philadelphia Phillies Victor Martinez - DET
  16. captmurphy - Cincinnati Reds Dave Righetti - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  17. atheistdeals - Kansas City Royals Willie McGee - STL (Cardinals off the board)
  18. alleyviper - New York Mets Dick Allen - CHW
  19. newarkwilder - Atlanta Braves Roy Halladay - PHI
  20. specsman - St. Louis Cardinals Brian Giles - PIT (Pirates off the board)
  21. buddhagamer - New York Yankees Willie Wilson - KCR (Royals off the board)
  22. shaybee - Los Angeles Dodgers Scooter Gennett - CIN
  23. Lincoln15 - Oakland Athletics Tony Phillips - DET (Tigers off the board)
  24. rbow923 - Houston Astros George Foster - CIN (Reds off the board)
Player Draft Third Round (timed schedule starts THURSDAY 1/24)
  1. pumpkinmcp - Tampa Bay Rays Fernando Valenzuela - LAD
  2. nordawg - Arizona Diamondbacks Craig Kimbrel - BOS
  3. spoonfed - Detroit Tigers Mark McGwire - OAK
  4. dilligafdbp - Chicago White Sox Ichiro Suzuki - SEA
  5. good_beef - Pittsburgh Pirates Carlton Fisk - BOS (Red Sox off the board)
  6. trenchfoot - Los Angeles Angels Darren Daulton - PHI
  7. DoctorKz - Minnesota Twins Wade Boggs - NYY
  8. sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers Bobby Murcer - NYY (Yankees off the board)
  9. bob_shabazz - Baltimore Orioles Bob Ojeda - NYM
  10. mussopini23 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals Dallas Keuchel - HOU
  11. Chisock - Toronto Blue Jays Bill Singer - LAD (Dodgers off the board)
  12. justinlee_24 - Cleveland Indians Don Sutton - HOU (Astros off the board)
  13. sakensei - Seattle Mariners CC Sabathia - MIL
  14. tridentric - Boston Red Sox Daniel Murphy - MON/WSH
  15. ff09 - Philadelphia Phillies Blake Treinen - OAK (Athletics off the board)
  16. captmurphy - Cincinnati Reds Rollie Fingers - MIL (Brewers off the board)
  17. atheistdeals - Kansas City Royals Chuck Knoblauch - MIN
  18. alleyviper - New York Mets AFTBOAT - STL
  19. newarkwilder - Atlanta Braves Tim Burke - MON/WSH (Expo/Nats off the board)
  20. specsman - St. Louis Cardinals Jose Rijo - CIN
  21. buddhagamer - New York Yankees Edwin Diaz - SEA (Mariners off the board)
  22. shaybee - Los Angeles Dodgers Roberto Clemente - PIT
  23. Lincoln15 - Oakland Athletics Lyman Bostock - MIN (Twins off the board)
  24. rbow923 - Houston Astros Carlos Ruiz - PHI (Phillies off the board)
1/25/2019 11:43 AM (edited)
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List of keepers/draft picks

pumpkinmcp - Tampa Bay Rays: Blake Snell, Evan Longoria, Ben Zobrist, Joaquin Benoit, Carlos Pena, Mark McGwire - STL, Fernando Rodney, JR Richard - HOU, David Price, Fernando Valenzuela - LAD

nordawg - Arizona Diamondbacks: Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Dan Haren, Paul Goldschmidt, Luis Gonzalez, Pedro Martinez - NYM, Daniel Hudson, Bernie Williams - NYY, Miguel Montero, Craig Kimbrel - BOS

spoonfed - Detroit Tigers: Alan Trammell, Miguel Cabrera, Magglio Ordonez, Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Chris Sale - BOS, Ivan Rodriguez, Roger Nelson - KCR, Curtis Granderson, Mark McGwire - OAK

dilligafdbp - Chicago White Sox: Frank Thomas, Albert Belle, Magglio Ordonez, Chris Sale, Wilbur Wood, Justin Verlander - HOU, Robin Ventura, Don Wilson - HOU, Ray Durham, Ichiro Suzuki - SEA

good_beef - Pittsburgh Pirates: Dave Parker, Omar Moreno, Barry Bonds, John Candelaria, Steve Blass, Bob Gibson - STL, Aramis Ramirez, Andy Messersmith - LAD, Jay Bell, Carlton Fisk - BOS

trenchfoot - Los Angeles Angels: Frank Tanana, Mike Trout, Andy Messersmith, Bobby Grich, Darin Erstad, Rico Petrocelli - BOS, Tim Salmon, Reggie Jackson - OAK, Garrett Richards, Darren Daulton - PHI

DoctorKz - Minnesota Twins: Rod Carew, Kirby Puckett, Joe Mauer, Johan Santana, Joe Nathan, Kevin Brown - LAD, Bert Blyleven, Nomar Garciaparra - BOS, Tony Oliva, Wade Boggs - NYY

sinfonian11 - Milwaukee Brewers: Robin Yount, Prince Fielder, Christian Yelich, Teddy Higuera, Mike Caldwell, Adrian Beltre - LAD, Ryan Braun, Hideo Nomo - LAD, Josh Hader, Bobby Murcer - NYY

bob_shabazz - Baltimore Orioles: Mike Cuellar, Jim Palmer, Manny Machado, Brady Anderson, Chris Hoiles, Jeff Bagwell - HOU, Roberto Alomar, Fred Lynn - BOS, Zach Britton, Bob Ojeda - NYM

mussopini23 - Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals: Pedro Martinez, Max Scherzer, Bryce Harper, Gary Carter, Tim Raines, Barry Larkin - CIN, Pascual Perez, John Olerud - NYM, Vladimir Guerrero, Dallas Keuchel - HOU

Chisock - Toronto Blue Jays: John Olerud, Roberto Alomar, Jose Bautista, Roger Clemens, Roy Halladay, Willie Stargell - PIT, Tony Fernandez, Ted Simmons - STL, BJ Ryan, Bill Singer - LAD

justinlee_24 - Cleveland Indians: Gaylord Perry, Corey Kluber, Roberto Alomar, Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez, Jason Giambi - OAK, Francisco Lindor, Rick Reuschel - PIT, Jose Ramirez, Don Sutton - HOU

sakensei - Seattle Mariners: Edgar Martinez, Ken Griffey, Jr., Alex Rodriguez, Randy Johnson, Felix Hernandez, Kevin Millwood - ATL, Robinson Cano, Darrell Evans - ATL, Cliff Lee, CC Sabathia - MIL

tridentric - Boston Red Sox: Mookie Betts, Wade Boggs, Carl Yastrzemski, Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, Mariano Rivera - NYY, Derek Lowe, Craig Kimbrel - ATL, JD Martinez, Daniel Murphy - MON/WSH

ff09 - Philadelphia Phillies: Mike Schmidt, Chase Utley, Steve Carlton, Curt Schilling, Aaron Nola, Rickey Henderson - NYY, Lenny Dykstra, Victor Martinez - DET, Jimmy Rollins, Blake Treinen - OAK

captmurphy - Cincinnati Reds: Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Joey Votto, Johnny Cueto, Tom Seaver, Jim Thome - CLE, Eric Davis, Dave Righetti - NYY, Kevin Mitchell, Rollie Fingers - MIL

atheistdeals - Kansas City Royals: George Brett, Darrell Porter, Kevin Appier, Zack Greinke, Bret Saberhagen, Carlos Delgado - TOR, David Cone, Willie McGee - STL, Wade Davis, Chuck Knoblauch - MIN

alleyviper - New York Mets: Dwight Gooden, Tom Seaver, Jacob DeGrom, Matt Harvey, David Wright, Ryan Howard - PHI, Edgardo Alfonso, Dick Allen - CHW, Mike Piazza, AFTBOAT - STL

newarkwilder - Atlanta Braves: Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Chipper Jones, Hank Aaron, Marcus Giles, TSMOPPOAT - BAL, Javy Lopez, Roy Halladay - PHI, Kris Medlen, Tim Burke - MON/WSH

specsman - St. Louis Cardinals: Chris Carpenter, John Tudor, Albert Pujols, Joe Torre, Ozzie Smith, Andrew McCutchen - PIT, Adam Wainwright, Brian Giles - PIT, Yadier Molina, Jose Rijo - CIN

buddhagamer - New York Yankees: Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Paul O'Neill, Ron Guidry, Catfish Hunter, HWMNBN - CIN, Fritz Peterson, Willie Wilson - KCR, Robinson Cano, Edwin Diaz - SEA

shaybee - Los Angeles Dodgers: Orel Hershiser, Clayton Kershaw, Don Sutton, Zack Greinke, Mike Piazza, Mark Eichhorn - TOR, Kenley Jansen, Scooter Gennett - CIN, Pedro Guerrero, Roberto Clemente - PIT

Lincoln15 - Oakland Athletics: Vida Blue, Catfish Hunter, Mike Norris, Dennis Eckersley, Rickey Henderson, Cecil Cooper - MIL, Tim Hudson, Tony Phillips - DET, Randy Velarde, Lyman Bostock - MIN

rbow923 - Houston Astros: Mike Scott, Roger Clemens, TSMOPOAT, Jose Altuve, Lance Berkman, Jose Reyes - NYM, Cesar Cedeno, George Foster - CIN, Randy Johnson, Carlos Ruiz - PHI
1/25/2019 11:44 AM (edited)
alleyviper
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I swear if anyone takes the ExpoNats...
1/11/2019 6:47 AM
captmurphy
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You'll pick someone else?
1/11/2019 10:07 AM
trenchfoot
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It'd be an incredibly bold move to try and take them again after someone else already did. You'd have to split up your protects between the two of you.
1/11/2019 10:32 AM
captmurphy
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Who would get Youppi! ?
1/11/2019 10:45 AM
spoonfed
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I will start it off and take the Detroit Tigers
1/11/2019 10:46 AM
mussopini23
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I'm here, of course will wait for beef to make his pick
1/11/2019 12:00 PM
captmurphy
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Feel free to send me a proxy if you have to head off.
1/11/2019 12:15 PM
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Sorry, I was busy with that B*tch we call - WORK (its a 4 letter word, I was told to avoid those)

& Im also in another draft thats almost half way thru?

I diddnt realize we started, my Bad?

I think I'll take the PIRATES, of course they had No Pitching, so... Guess where my 3 steals will be coming from??? BUT, I might need a Batter, maybe?
1/11/2019 12:41 PM (edited)
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Was thinking Twins, but will go with a team I despise in real life due to their Pitching - Expos/Nats
1/11/2019 12:46 PM
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welp
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