How often do people in D1 get fired?

Almost all the power jobs in my world in D1 are taken now, so will I never have a chance to get to a power conference?

Right now, it happens rarely, though new leadership has talked about being open to considering options. This would be more acceptable now that it is much faster to actually get to the D1 power conference level.

But it’s also important to note that half-to-3/4 full mid-major conferences are often really good spots in worlds where power conferences are full. The A10 in Phelan and Smith is essentially a power conference. The MEAC in Tark is full of D baseline teams, and is basically a power conference in that world now (well really good mid major, because those small conference schools can almost never maintain an A+ prestige, so they all sit between C and A- most years, like really good mid majors). The point is there are lots of places to compete outside of power conferences. The bottom of a full power conference, where all the humans are active and know what they’re doing, is about the toughest place to be in HD, in reality. So over time, I don’t expect all those power conferences to stay full year over year too long. Right now, we’re seeing it happen a lot, because the job change adjustment is new.

Yeah, people haven't realized yet that being the 12th guy in the Big 10 at Penn State (B- baseline, brutal schedule, brutal recruiting area) is objectively by far a worse job than Colorado State (C baseline, great schedule, great recruiting area).

I would like to see firings increased at this point also. But I think that it should be clear what the expectations for a coach are when they take the job.

For example, if you are taking over a normal Big 6 program, you should maybe have a winning season in a 4 year period. But if you are at one of the A+ baseline schools, maybe you need a conference title every 4 years or no more than 3 years without an NT appearance. Maybe at least two Sweet 16 appearances every decade.

For lower level schools I don't think firings are necessary, but maybe for power conferences. And maybe even mid majors, although maybe that would be a winning season at least once every 6 years or so. Unless they did away with baseline altogether.

Most of the power conferences are getting full now, so soon it will be hard to get a spot in any of them. Recruiting is going to be a lot more intense as well. Should be very interesting.

I say fire errrbody if they suck, including myself! Makes things more interesting! Hell, Donald Trump had a tv show where the whole point was to fire people and according to him the ratings were HUGE! So huge, the country elected him president... You’re FIRED!

Posted by chapelhillne on 3/30/2021 7:54:00 PM (view original):
I would like to see firings increased at this point also. But I think that it should be clear what the expectations for a coach are when they take the job.

For example, if you are taking over a normal Big 6 program, you should maybe have a winning season in a 4 year period. But if you are at one of the A+ baseline schools, maybe you need a conference title every 4 years or no more than 3 years without an NT appearance. Maybe at least two Sweet 16 appearances every decade.

For lower level schools I don't think firings are necessary, but maybe for power conferences. And maybe even mid majors, although maybe that would be a winning season at least once every 6 years or so. Unless they did away with baseline altogether.

Most of the power conferences are getting full now, so soon it will be hard to get a spot in any of them. Recruiting is going to be a lot more intense as well. Should be very interesting.

I think it’s premature right now. Let’s see how it looks in 5 (1x) to 10 (2x) seasons. If users at the bottom of those full power conferences start showing themselves out, increasing firing is just asking for dissatisfied customers for no good reason.

IF it’s determined to be a real, lasting problem that needs a structural solution, I think it makes the most sense to base it on the actual prestige of the program taken over. You take over a team at C+, you need to maintain at least a C+ prestige, you have 5 seasons of grace to get it there (to cover a rebuild). If you take over Kentucky at A+, you better keep them nice and high. I’d say no firings over A-, but taking over an A+ team and letting them slip under A- after 5 seasons should put you on the hot seat, I think. It would make folks thoughtful about the programs they apply for, too. I wouldn’t put specific things like number of S16 appearances, or anything like that, those aren’t really very realistic, and that’s pretty luck dependent anyway. As long as prestige captures all of that, it can be handled under that umbrella, I think.