It sucks (and is horrible for the game) that the recovery from a major injury is predicated to the time of the season that it happens.

Does that mean that Ronald Acuna Jr. for the Atlanta Braves may or may not fully recover from his ACL injury? It is only based on the fact that his rehab goes into next season and if he is put on the DL at the beginning of next season?

https://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerRatings.aspx?pid=9832889

This players injury happened after 29 games and was for 200+ games. Because he will recover in the offseason, he will only get 1 Recovery. He is only 26 years old.

1. Why don't players get Recovery during the season at the same rate that players get normal bumps? Players do recover over time, not just at the end of their DL stint.
2. If his injury had happened in the last 70 games or so, he would have been still injured at the beginning of the following season and had a chance for a full recovery. Maybe even get better than he was.
3. Kevin Kopps was a 3rd round pick in this years MLB draft. He was the Golden Spikes winner as the best college player. He had Tommy Johns surgery in 2018. Prospects shouldn't have their future development stunted or cut because they had a major injury. A lot of them now days still reach their potential. Some young pitchers are even opting for Tommy Johns when they don't truly need it because it actually makes them stronger. Too often I see prospects in Hardball Dynasty never get close to their development because they don't get the proper amount of recovery bumps during rehab.

With medical/science development now days, most players do recover properly/fully.

And yes, I do run a high Medical and Training...................

I second this. Easily the worst part of the game and is first on my list of changes I’d like made.

Posted by jwynkoop2424 on 7/19/2021 1:25:00 PM (view original):
It sucks (and is horrible for the game) that the recovery from a major injury is predicated to the time of the season that it happens.

Does that mean that Ronald Acuna Jr. for the Atlanta Braves may or may not fully recover from his ACL injury? It is only based on the fact that his rehab goes into next season and if he is put on the DL at the beginning of next season?

https://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerRatings.aspx?pid=9832889

This players injury happened after 29 games and was for 200+ games. Because he will recover in the offseason, he will only get 1 Recovery. He is only 26 years old.

1. Why don't players get Recovery during the season at the same rate that players get normal bumps? Players do recover over time, not just at the end of their DL stint.
2. If his injury had happened in the last 70 games or so, he would have been still injured at the beginning of the following season and had a chance for a full recovery. Maybe even get better than he was.
3. Kevin Kopps was a 3rd round pick in this years MLB draft. He was the Golden Spikes winner as the best college player. He had Tommy Johns surgery in 2018. Prospects shouldn't have their future development stunted or cut because they had a major injury. A lot of them now days still reach their potential. Some young pitchers are even opting for Tommy Johns when they don't truly need it because it actually makes them stronger. Too often I see prospects in Hardball Dynasty never get close to their development because they don't get the proper amount of recovery bumps during rehab.

With medical/science development now days, most players do recover properly/fully.

And yes, I do run a high Medical and Training...................

Yes. Yes. Yes. I have had many posts about this. I think injury recovery and lopsided trades are the two worst parts of the HBD.

Had some really crap luck in Moneyball where 9 top prospect type guys went down with a major injury during the past 8 seasons. All of them were to guys under the age of 25 so the major injury occurred at a major point in the player's development. Since injury recovery works the way it does, I feel like im playing with a flawed team. It's not just the recovery bumps for prospects, it's the missing development time. The player misses year 1 or year 2 of his development due to a major injury, forget about him hitting his splits projections.

One of Admin's recent posts reminded us that this is a dynasty game where minor leagues matter. I agree with this sentiment. However, having a young player's development totally stall out if he gets an injury in year 1 through 3, is unrealistic and puts a disincentive on developing young talent. This isn't 1993 and each player isn't Brien Taylor.

And yes, on injuries to veteran and prospect type players, the recovery should depend more on the teams medical and training budget, the players health and makeup rating. It should not depend on when during the season the injury occurred.

Please fix injuries to prospects where missed time due to injury has less of an effect on their long term development. Please fix injuries to all players to where the recovery depends more on player makeup and health ratings and team medical and training budgets. It should not depend when during the season the injury occurred.

Yeah, permanent injuries just shouldn't be a thing in a game when owners invest so much time and money (the money part doesn't bother me nearly as much as wasting an IRL year or more when a build falls apart due to a major stud turning into a pumpkin).

If you want to a) build a team with $0 Med and try to gain an edge by stocking up on a few more FA's at the risk of permanent injury or b) roll with what you have with $20M Med and a guarantee that they keep their ratings after injury recovery, or c) do $10M Med and do a hybrid of the two - that seems like a pretty even trade off.

I think the super soldier injury bug in HBD early days poisoned the well and they over corrected. Time for HBD to find a happy medium.

+1000 the timing of the injury should have no effect at all. I had a guy get hurt for almost thirty days, lost a few ratings. Is any of that coming back? Nope, because the injury happened in the playoffs. He gets hurt in the middle of the season and all that's coming back and maybe more.To brian's point, I agree that if you put 20/20 in Medical/Training it should give you an elite medical team. Maybe I'm the dummy not running 0 Medical lol.

Guys never fully recover anymore.

I wonder if this gets fixed before the tear down and rebuild of HBD. This is likely near the top of the list of things that are significantly wrong, but I bet the coding on something like this could be tricky. If you do it wrong, owners could use the 20mm medical budget to build Greek Gods. However, in my opinion, even that would be better than the current state of injury recovery.