- Create 5 different teams from one single draft.
- 12 round draft
- ABBABABABABA(Snake draft except the 3rd round starts with #24)
- All posted picks are final
- No salary cap
- No waiver wire or rookies
- Draft order will be completely random.
- No trades. However, you can trade draft positions for the entire 1st round.
- Divisions for all 5 teams will be randomized using the Robusk method.
- If you draft a player that has less than 5 seasons, you must use a 239k scrub and put them on rest for whatever team is using the missing seasons. Example: If you draft Charlie Edge, 73-74 will be on one team, 74-75 will be on another, and you will put a 239k scrub on rest for the other 3 teams.

All 5 leagues will run simultaneously.

Regular season win = 1 point
Playoff win = 2 points
1st round bye = 8 points
Championship = 20 points
All 5 teams make the playoffs = 20 points

The owner with the most combined points from all 5 leagues will be crowned champion.

Tiebreaker for most points: 1. Championships 2. Playoff points 3. Regular season points 4. Head to head record

The champion will receive $50 from WIS.


Savage Champions

I - kinoa1
II - pexetera
III - dbkc
IV - kinoa1
V - benhoidal
VI - ?


sitemail list: dh555;bds9992;benhoidal;jhsukow;midge;mikee1;robusk;notoriousj;24kpyrite;amerk1180;raggedclaws;seapilots;pharrop;ysw128;jcred5;20ks;beloud;tarheel1991;gerryred;jkaye24;ncmusician_7;dontburnearl;albiband0;jpevans31

Draft Results

Round 1 - Untimed

1. tarheel1991 - LeBron James
2. bds9992 - Wilt Chamberlain
3. pharrop - Steph Curry
4. ysw128 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
5. benhoidal - Dwight Howard
6. gerryred - Shaquille O'Neal
7. 24kpyrite - Michael Jordan
8. beloud - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
9. dontburnearl - David Robinson
10. ncmusician_7 - Chris Paul
11. albiband0 - James Harden
12. seapilots - Rudy Gobert
13. jhsukow - Karl Malone
14. raggedclaws - Charles Barkley
15. jkaye24 - Kevin Garnett
16. amerk1180 - Kevin Durant
17. dh555 - John Stockton
18. 20ks - DeAndre Jordan
19. jcred5 - Larry Bird
20. mikee1 - Tim Duncan
21. notoriousj - Dennis Rodman
22. jpevans31 - Dwyane Wade
23. robusk - Anthony Davis
24. midge - Hakeem Olajuwon

Round 2 - 24hr skip rule

1. midge - Julius Erving
2. robusk - Kawhi Leonard
3. jpevans31 - Scottie Pippen
4. notoriousj - Magic Johnson
5. mikee1 - Jason Kidd
6. jcred5 - Artis Gilmore
7. 20ks - Moses Malone
8. dh555 - Kevin McHale
9. amerk1180 - Ben Wallace
10. jkaye24 - Oscar Robertson
11. raggedclaws - Gary Payton
12. jhsukow - Nikola Jokic
13. seapilots - Andre Drummond
14. albiband0 - Hassan Whiteside
15. ncmusician_7 - Klay Thompson
16. dontburnearl - Steve Nash
17. beloud - Buck Williams
18. 24kpyrite - Karl-Anthony Towns
19. gerryred - Shawn Kemp
20. benhoidal - Bill Russell
21. ysw128 - Paul George
22. pharrop - Tyson Chandler
23. bds9992 - Kyrie Irving
24. tarheel1991 - Dikembe Mutombo

Round 3 - 24hr skip rule

1. midge - Walt Frazier
2. robusk - Damian Lillard
3. jpevans31 - Larry Nance
4. notoriousj - Clint Capela
5. mikee1 - Shawn Marion
6. jcred5 - Bobby Jones
7. 20ks - Ben Simmons
8. dh555 - Jonas Valanciunas
9. amerk1180 - Jrue Holiday
10. jkaye24 - Marcus Camby
11. raggedclaws - Patrick Ewing
12. jhsukow - Draymond Green
13. seapilots - Manu Ginobili
14. albiband0 - Serge Ibaka
15. ncmusician_7 - Elton Brand
16. dontburnearl - Bill Walton
17. beloud - Horace Grant
18. 24kpyrite - Joakim Noah
19. gerryred - Mark Price
20. benhoidal - Andrei Kirilenko
21. ysw128 - Joel Embiid
22. pharrop - Alonzo Mourning
23. bds9992 - Jimmy Butler
24. tarheel1991 - Kyle Lowry

Round 4 - 24hr skip rule

1. tarheel1991 - Robert Parish
2. bds9992 - Andrew Bogut
3. pharrop - Jerry Lucas
4. ysw128 - Kobe Bryant
5. benhoidal - Clyde Drexler
6. gerryred - Carlos Boozer
7. 24kpyrite - Chauncey Billups
8. beloud - Anfernee Hardaway
9. dontburnearl - Jerry West
10. ncmusician_7 - Tree Rollins
11. albiband0 - Kenneth Faried
12. seapilots - Kemba Walker
13. jhsukow - Ray Allen
14. raggedclaws - Mookie Blaylock
15. jkaye24 - Montrezl Harrell
16. amerk1180 - Bob McAdoo
17. dh555 - Amare Stoudemire
18. 20ks - Deron Williams
19. jcred5 - Gerald Wallace
20. mikee1 - Danny Green
21. notoriousj - Eric Bledsoe
22. jpevans31 - Brent Barry
23. robusk - Pau Gasol
24. midge - Bam Adebayo

Round 5 - 24hr skip rule

1. midge - Dave Cowens
2. robusk - Donyell Marshall
3. jpevans31 - Emeka Okafor
4. notoriousj - Mike Conley
5. mikee1 - Nikola Vucevic
6. jcred5 - Rajon Rondo
7. 20ks - Luka Doncic
8. dh555 - Sidney Moncrief
9. amerk1180 - Grant Hill
10. jkaye24 - Alvin Robertson
11. raggedclaws - Derrick Favors
12. jhsukow - Andre Iguodala
13. seapilots - Willis Reed
14. albiband0 - Nate McMillan
15. ncmusician_7 - Bo Outlaw
16. dontburnearl - John Collins
17. beloud - Derek Harper
18. 24kpyrite - Dan Roundfield
19. gerryred - Jose Calderon
20. benhoidal - Paul Millsap
21. ysw128 - Mo Cheeks
22. pharrop - Paul Pierce
23. bds9992 - Pascal Siakam
24. tarheel1991 - Marques Johnson

Round 6 - 24hr skip rule

1. tarheel1991 - Al Horford
2. bds9992 - Enes Kanter
3. pharrop - Andrew Bynum
4. ysw128 - Michael Cooper
5. benhoidal - Christian Wood
6. gerryred - Joe Dumars
7. 24kpyrite - Dirk Nowitzki
8. beloud - Michael Porter
9. dontburnearl - Anthony Mason
10. ncmusician_7 - Chris Webber
11. albiband0 - Mel Daniels
12. seapilots - Terry Porter
13. jhsukow - Kyle Anderson
14. raggedclaws - Richaun Holmes
15. jkaye24 - Jarrett Allen
16. amerk1180 - JaVale McGee
17. dh555 - Dale Davis
18. 20ks - Bradley Beal
19. jcred5 - Domantas Sabonis
20. mikee1 - Chris Andersen
21. notoriousj - Bob Lanier
22. jpevans31 - Eddie Jones
23. robusk - Chris Boucher
24. midge - Kyle Korver

Round 7 - 24hr skip rule

1. midge - Rodney McCray
2. robusk - Kermit Washington
3. jpevans31 - Charles Oakley
4. notoriousj - Nikola Mirotic
5. mikee1 - Samuel Dalembert
6. jcred5 - Charlie Ward
7. 20ks - Kevin Love
8. dh555 - Khris Middleton
9. amerk1180 - Terrell Brandon
10. jkaye24 - Ed Davis
11. raggedclaws - Joe Ingles
12. jhsukow - Robert Covington
13. seapilots - Paul Silas
14. albiband0 - Russell Westbrook
15. ncmusician_7 - Kevin Johnson
16. dontburnearl - John Henson
17. beloud - Victor Oladipo
18. 24kpyrite - Bill Bridges
19. gerryred - Terry Tyler
20. benhoidal - Arvydas Sabonis
21. ysw128 - Mark Jackson
22. pharrop - Jayson Tatum
23. bds9992 - Zach LaVine
24. tarheel1991 - Mitchell Robinson

Round 8 - 24hr skip rule

1. tarheel1991 - D'Angelo Russell
2. bds9992 - CJ McCollum
3. pharrop - Delon Wright
4. ysw128 - Tom Boerwinkle
5. benhoidal - Paul Pressey
6. gerryred - JaMychal Green
7. 24kpyrite - Otto Porter
8. beloud - Lamar Odom
9. dontburnearl - Chris Mullin
10. ncmusician_7 - Brandan Wright
11. albiband0 - Swen Nater
12. seapilots - T.J. McConnell
13. jhsukow - Patrick Beverley
14. raggedclaws - Yao Ming
15. jkaye24 - Brandon Clarke
16. amerk1180 - Zion Williamson
17. dh555 - Clifford Ray
18. 20ks - Wes Unseld
19. jcred5 - Vince Carter
20. mikee1 - Clarence Weatherspoon
21. notoriousj - Jamario Moon
22. jpevans31 - Ron Harper
23. robusk - Tracy McGrady
24. midge - Fat Lever

Round 9 - 24hr skip rule

1. midge - Troy Murphy
2. robusk - James Johnson
3. jpevans31 - A.C. Green
4. notoriousj - DeMarcus Cousins
5. mikee1 - Jon Barry
6. jcred5 - Deandre Ayton
7. 20ks - Reggie Miller
8. dh555 - Antonio McDyess
9. amerk1180 - Buddy Hield
10. jkaye24 - Mike Miller
11. raggedclaws - Robert Williams
12. jhsukow - Kyle O'Quinn
13. seapilots - Nicolas Batum
14. albiband0 - George T. Johnson
15. ncmusician_7 - Thaddeus Young
16. dontburnearl - Jusuf Nurkic
17. beloud - Goran Dragic
18. 24kpyrite - John Havlicek
19. gerryred - Roy Tarpley
20. benhoidal - David West
21. ysw128 - David Lee
22. pharrop - Rudy Gay
23. bds9992 - Shane Battier
24. tarheel1991 - Anderson Varejao

Round 10 - 24hr skip rule

1. tarheel1991 - George Hill
2. bds9992 - Thabo Sefolosha
3. pharrop - Robert Horry
4. ysw128 - Joel Przybilla
5. benhoidal - Paul Westphal
6. gerryred - Jayson Williams
7. 24kpyrite - Dana Barros
8. beloud - Lonzo Ball
9. dontburnearl - Bob Dandridge
10. ncmusician_7 - Cedric Maxwell
11. albiband0 - Doug Christie
12. seapilots - James Worthy
13. jhsukow - Kris Humphries
14. raggedclaws - Kevon Looney
15. jkaye24 - Ryan Anderson
16. amerk1180 - Hot Rod Williams
17. dh555 - Larry Sanders
18. 20ks - Jeff Hornacek
19. jcred5 - Julius Randle
20. mikee1 - Mason Plumlee
21. notoriousj - John Wall
22. jpevans31 - Oliver Miller
23. robusk - Ivica Zubac
24. midge - Jameer Nelson

Round 11 - 24hr skip rule

1. midge - Bobby Portis
2. robusk - Andris Biedrins
3. jpevans31 - Ervin Johnson
4. notoriousj - Cheick Diallo
5. mikee1 - Darren Collison
6. jcred5 - Nerlens Noel
7. 20ks - Walt Bellamy
8. dh555 - Cedric Ceballos
9. amerk1180 - Micheal Ray Richardson
10. jkaye24 - Bob Pettit
11. raggedclaws - Mikal Bridges
12. jhsukow - Gus Johnson
13. seapilots - Marc Gasol
14. albiband0 - Bob Gross
15. ncmusician_7 - Steven Adams
16. dontburnearl - Rasheed Wallace
17. beloud - Boban Marjanovic
18. 24kpyrite - Don Buse
19. gerryred - Marvin Williams
20. benhoidal - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
21. ysw128 - Cole Aldrich
22. pharrop - Baron Davis
23. bds9992 - Bogdan Bogdanovic
24. tarheel1991 - Derrick Rose

Round 12 - 24hr skip rule

1. tarheel1991 - Tyrese Haliburton
2. bds9992 - Greg Monroe
3. pharrop - P.J. Brown
4. ysw128 - Jeff Ruland
5. benhoidal - Michael Smith
6. gerryred - Jamaal Tinsley
7. 24kpyrite - Adrian Dantley
8. beloud - Terry Rozier
9. dontburnearl - Bobby Phills
10. ncmusician_7 - Walter Davis
11. albiband0 - Tony Parker
12. seapilots - T.J. Warren
13. jhsukow - Jaylen Brown
14. raggedclaws - LeMelo Ball
15. jkaye24 - Zelmo Beaty
16. amerk1180 - Elmore Smith
17. dh555 - Avery Johnson
18. 20ks - Sleepy Floyd
19. jcred5 - Kirk Hinrich
20. mikee1 - Connie Hawkins
21. notoriousj - Mo Bamba
22. jpevans31 - Derrick McKey
23. robusk - Jason Terry
24. midge - Elgin Baylor

Drafted Players


A
Abdul-Jabbar, Kareem
Adams, Steven
Adebayo, Bam
Aldrich, Cole
Allen, Jarrett
Allen, Ray
Andersen, Chris
Anderson, Kyle
Anderson, Ryan
Antetokounmpo, Giannis
Ayton, Deandre

B
Ball, LeMelo
Ball, Lonzo
Bamba, Mo
Barkley, Charles
Barros, Dana
Barry, Brent
Barry, Jon
Battier, Shane
Batum, Nicolas
Baylor, Elgin
Beal, Bradley
Beaty, Zelmo
Bellamy, Walt
Beverley, Patrick
Biedrins, Andris
Billups, Chauncey
Bird, Larry
Blaylock, Mookie
Bledsoe, Eric
Boerwinkle, Tom
Bogdanovic, Bogdan
Bogut, Andrew
Boozer, Carlos
Boucher, Chris
Brand, Elton
Brandon, Terrell
Bridges, Bill
Bridges, Mikal
Brown, Jaylen
Brown, P.J.
Bryant, Kobe
Buse, Don
Butler, Jimmy
Bynum, Andrew

C
Calderon, Jose
Camby, Marcus
Capela, Clint
Carter, Vince
Ceballos, Cedric
Chamberlain, Wilt
Chandler, Tyson
Cheeks, Mo
Christie, Doug
Clarke, Brandon
Collins, John
Collison, Darren
Conley, Mike
Cooper, Michael
Cousins, DeMarcus
Covington, Robert
Cowens, Dave
Curry, Steph

D
Dalembert, Samuel
Dandridge, Bob
Daniels, Mel
Dantley, Adrian
Davis, Anthony
Davis, Baron
Davis, Dale
Davis, Ed
Davis, Walter
Diallo, Cheick
Doncic, Luka
Dragic, Goran
Drexler, Clyde
Drummond, Andre
Dumars, Joe
Duncan, Tim
Durant, Kevin

E
Embiid, Joel
Erving, Julius
Ewing, Patrick

F
Faried, Kenneth
Favors, Derrick
Floyd, Sleepy
Frazier, Walt

G
Garnett, Kevin
Gasol, Marc
Gasol, Pau
Gay, Rudy
George, Paul
Gilgeous-Alexander, Shai
Gilmore, Artis
Ginobili, Manu
Gobert, Rudy
Grant, Horace
Green, A.C.
Green, Danny
Green, Draymond
Green, JaMychal
Gross, Bob

H
Haliburton, Tyrese
Hardaway, Anfernee
Harden, James
Harper, Derek
Harper, Ron
Harrell, Montrezl
Havlicek, John
Hawkins, Connie
Henson, John
Hield, Buddy
Hill, George
Hill, Grant
Hinrich, Kirk
Holiday, Jrue
Holmes, Richaun
Horford, Al
Hornacek, Jeff
Horry, Robert
Howard, Dwight
Humphries, Kris

I
Ibaka, Serge
Iguodala, Andre
Ingles, Joe
Irving, Kyrie

J
Jackson, Mark
James, LeBron
Johnson, Avery
Johnson, Ervin
Johnson, George T.
Johnson, Gus
Johnson, James
Johnson, Kevin
Johnson, Magic
Johnson, Marques
Jokic, Nikola
Jones, Bobby
Jones, Eddie
Jordan, DeAndre
Jordan, Michael

K
Kanter, Enes
Kemp, Shawn
Kidd, Jason
Kirilenko, Andrei
Korver, Kyle

L
Lanier, Bob
LaVine, Zach
Lee, David
Leonard, Kawhi
Lever, Fat
Lillard, Damian
Looney, Kevon
Love, Kevin
Lowry, Kyle
Lucas, Jerry

M
Malone, Karl
Malone, Moses
Marion, Shawn
Marjanovic, Boban
Marshall, Donyell
Mason, Anthony
Maxwell, Cedric
McAdoo, Bob
McCollum, CJ
McConnell, T.J.
McCray, Rodney
McDyess, Antonio
McGee, JaVale
McGrady, Tracy
McHale, Kevin
McKey, Derrick
McMillan, Nate
Middleton, Khris
Miller, Mike
Miller, Oliver
Miller, Reggie
Millsap, Paul
Ming, Yao
Mirotic, Nikola
Moncrief, Sidney
Monroe, Greg
Moon, Jamario
Mourning, Alonzo
Mullin, Chris
Murphy, Troy
Mutombo, Dikembe

N
Nance, Larry
Nash, Steve
Nater, Swen
Nelson, Jameer
Noah, Joakim
Noel, Nerlens
Nowitzki, Dirk
Nurkic, Jusuf

O
Oakley, Charles
Odom, Lamar
Okafor, Emeka
Oladipo, Victor
Olajuwon, Hakeem
O'Neal, Shaquille
O'Quinn, Kyle
Outlaw, Bo

P
Parish, Robert
Parker, Tony
Paul, Chris
Payton, Gary
Pettit, Bob
Phills, Bobby
Pierce, Paul
Pippen, Scottie
Plumlee, Mason
Porter, Michael
Porter, Otto
Porter, Terry
Portis, Bobby
Pressey, Paul
Price, Mark
Przybilla, Joel

R
Randle, Julius
Ray, Clifford
Reed, Willis
Richardson, Micheal Ray
Robertson, Alvin
Robertson, Oscar
Robinson, David
Robinson, Mitchell
Rodman, Dennis
Rollins, Tree
Rondo, Rajon
Rose, Derrick
Roundfield, Dan
Rozier, Terry
Ruland, Jeff
Russell, Bill
Russell, D'Angelo

S
Sabonis, Arvydas
Sabonis, Domantas
Sanders, Larry
Sefolosha, Thabo
Siakam, Pascal
Silas, Paul
Simmons, Ben
Smith, Elmore
Smith, Michael
Stockton, John
Stoudemire, Amare

T
Tarpley, Roy
Tatum, Jayson
Terry, Jason
Thompson, Klay
Tinsley, Jamaal
Towns, Karl-Anthony
Tyler, Terry

U
Unseld, Wes

V
Valanciunas, Jonas
Varejao, Anderson
Vucevic, Nikola

W
Wade, Dwyane
Walker, Kemba
Wall, John
Wallace, Ben
Wallace, Gerald
Wallace, Rasheed
Walton, Bill
Ward, Charlie
Warren, T.J.
Washington, Kermit
Weatherspoon, Clarence
Webber, Chris
West, David
West, Jerry
Westbrook, Russell
Westphal, Paul
Whiteside, Hassan
Williams, Buck
Williams, Deron
Williams, Hot Rod
Williams, Jayson
Williams, Marvin
Williams, Robert
Williamson, Zion
Wood, Christian
Worthy, James
Wright, Brandan
Wright, Delon

Y
Young, Thaddeus

Z
Zubic, Ivica

Returning Savages

bds9992
jhsukow
gerryred
ashamael - out
20ks
24kpyrite
jpevans31
robusk
jcred5
tarheel1991
dh555
dbkc - out
benhoidal
pexetera - out
mikee1
albiband0
notoriousj
midge
jkaye24
kinoa1 - out
ysw128
beloud
dontburnearl
ncmusician_7

Wait List
amerk1180
raggedclaws
pharrop
seapilots
reeldeal01
ncih

The Robusk Method:

World 1	World 2	World 3	World 4	World 5	Division
14	18	8	4	11	Div 1
3	17	13	20	15	Div 1
7	9	18	5	9	Div 1
13	4	10	8	13	Div 1
12	10	1	1	8	Div 1
15	20	12	6	20	Div 1
9	11	4	7	6	Div 2
6	14	21	2	17	Div 2
8	24	9	21	12	Div 2
10	21	6	10	5	Div 2
16	3	15	17	2	Div 2
24	1	22	12	3	Div 2
20	7	17	11	24	Div 3
17	16	5	9	7	Div 3
19	2	23	16	21	Div 3
23	13	3	3	18	Div 3
22	19	24	22	22	Div 3
1	6	7	13	19	Div 3
11	23	20	15	23	Div 4
21	15	19	19	10	Div 4
18	5	16	23	1	Div 4
4	8	11	24	14	Div 4
5	22	14	18	16	Div 4
2	12	2	14	4	Div 4

Row Labels	Count of Seasons	Sum Regular Season Wins	Sum of PlayoffWins	Sum Championships	All Time Points	Average Points per Season
kinoa1	3	770	145	4	1128	376
jkaye24	3	714	131	2	970	323
pexetera	5	1232	172	1	1590	318
mptrey	2	478	53	0	624	312
dBKC	5	1144	166	4	1552	310
robusk	5	1119	172	1	1437	287
Midge	3	653	100	1	845	282
dh555	5	1129	136	1	1403	281
ashamael	5	1144	122	2	1402	280
benhoidal	5	1087	131	3	1349	270
24kpyrite	5	1052	106	2	1276	255
tarheel1991	5	1056	84	1	1254	251
beloud	2	439	34	0	487	244
jcred5	5	998	85	1	1156	231
longtallbrad	3	583	45	1	693	231
pharrop	2	416	18	0	452	226
amerk1180	4	779	51	0	901	225
copernicus	1	203	10	0	223	223
gerryred	5	981	77	0	1113	223
ncmusician_7	1	183	30	0	221	221
mikee1	4	792	64	0	884	221
jhsukow	5	993	56	0	1097	219
cmcafeeky	3	594	23	0	640	213
dskantor	2	374	24	0	422	211
20ks	5	967	33	0	1029	206
bds9992	5	952	42	0	1020	204
jpevans31	5	899	45	1	1009	202
goetz93	3	541	22	0	585	195
dontburnearl	1	180	10	0	190	190
ysw128	4	704	8	0	720	180
samuelyork93	1	175	2	0	179	179
albiband0	4	641	44	0	709	177
zora4preside	1	165	1	0	167	167
NotoriousJ	3	463	1	0	465	155

I think you can safely say kinoa1 and dbkc are out.

I will hop back in

I only see 19 confirmed as in, but you say there are only two openings. Is that what they call new math?

I think he's counting on a couple leaning ins and probably ltb?

ah i forgot to switch pex to out...but pharrop just joined so we are back to 2...technically 2-4 but im only advertising 2 spots open until i get a definite no from them

You can put rerr on the sign up list.

Okay…..rerr is not a typo, it’s a user name, and he wants to play Savage.

Posted by Midge on 10/18/2021 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Okay…..rerr is not a typo, it’s a user name, and he wants to play Savage.

I'm not sure if adding someone with 0 simleague basketball seasons is a good idea.

Posted by benhoidal on 10/19/2021 9:19:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Midge on 10/18/2021 4:14:00 PM (view original):
Okay…..rerr is not a typo, it’s a user name, and he wants to play Savage.

I'm not sure if adding someone with 0 simleague basketball seasons is a good idea.

Unless he's drafting right in front of me....